Any intel on the clubs in Signal Hill.  Specifically Fantasy Castle or Palms.  Good dancers or ones to avoid?  Thanks for any help you can offer.

@ telecom122  How long have you been dating Victoria?  I read the posts and it sounds to me more like a suspicious boyfriend looking for the dirt.  I maybe wrong, but for some reason I think I am spot on.  Come on telecom....fess up.  Are you dating this girl?

One thing seems obivous in this thread. Big Chad you have it bad for Rachel. Me and everyone else knows the answer to this question, but I wonder if you do.......Do you really want to know the answer to the question you are asking? Smart money says NO!!! My advice is believe what she is telling you, stop asking questions, and get off of sites like this. The stress is going to kill you. If you are told that no one has ever touched her in a club you will keep looking to confirm that it still hasn't happened. if you find out that every single guy touches her in the club, you feel even worse. Big Chad, my brother, you are putting yourself in a no win situation. Please stop. I can't decided if you are more like a love struck little puppy, a lonely pathic loser, or a creepy stalker. I am praying for number 1 but betting on number 2.

"FULL DISCLOSURE!!! My sister dances in Florida." I agree that better places are out there for finding that "special" person. But before you paint all the dancers with the same brush maybe you should consider a few other things. If you want to meet a legal secretary....go into a law office. If you want to meet a waitress....go to a restaurant. But you went to a strip club. I don't know Rachel. Never met that woman in my life. I am also not going to be the person that throws stones at her or anyone else. If you like her, GREAT, if things work out even better. My advice to you would be always, always, always protect yourself. Doesn't matter if it is with a dancer, secretary, or waitress. STD's are no laughing matter! Also never risk more than you can afford to lose. Will this relationship work out?.....Bad news...Probably not. But most relationships don't. Good news...You may have a great time. Sal. Lou. Abel. Ease up guys. The reason the girls do what they do is because we pay them to do it. We find the sluttiest one in the herd and use that one to bring down the best ones. Just my thoughts. I appolagize to anyone I offended.

"FULL DISCLOSURE!!! My sister dances in Florida." I agree that better places are out there for finding that "special" person. But before you paint all the dancers with the same brush maybe you should consider a few other things. If you want to meet a legal secretary....go into a law office. If you want to meet a waitress....go to a restaurant. But you went to a strip club. I don't know Rachel. Never met that woman in my life. I am also not going to be the person that throws stones at her or anyone else. If you like her, GREAT, if things work out even better. My advice to you would be always, always, always protect yourself. Doesn't matter if it is with a dancer, secretary, or waitress. STD's are no laughing matter! Also never risk more than you can afford to lose. Will this relationship work out?.....Bad news...Probably not. But most relationships don't. Good news...You may have a great time. Sal. Lou. Abel. Ease up guys. The reason the girls do what they do is because we pay them to do it. We find the sluttiest one in the herd and use that one to bring down the best ones. Just my thoughts. I appolagize to anyone I offended.

I guess I am the minority here. I go to the clubs to spend time with the girls that might not spend time with me OTC. I like them thin and large breasted. Real or fake doesn't matter. I can pick up "thick" chicks in a regular bar, do more with them for a lot less money. I do agree that personality is important. The good news is that we won't have to fight over the same gal. You can keep the thick ones.

I was wearing a new white dress shirt. Had a lap dance, I didn't notice until I left that the dancer must have been wearing some kind of self tanner, because I was covered from my belt to my collar in this orangish brown stain. I had to throw the shirt away and tell the SO that a pen broke in the pocket.

Nobody asked. I was just curious if I did ask what would be expected. I think every guy would love to be out for a nice dinner with a beautiful woman but usually there a cost for that. Glad to hear that you can do it for nothing extra. Do you go out often with dancers?

And no other compensation but the meal itself???

What is the typical "tribute" for a dinner date?  Only dinner.  Please don't respond with it all depends.  I realize that but there has to be a going rate.

I think so. Thanks for the help.

Are you asking for their number? Do they offer their number first? I haven't ever befriended a dancer long enough to even consider this. I just kinda come in hang out, drink, get a couple dances and take off. So I repeat...How does this even get started? Someone please help me out with this one.

Sorry for being slow on getting things but......KMSO?