@ lopaw. lol. I heard that one too. Noone ever see's it coming.

Thank you Manual for taking the time to put this together. I agree with LouASS with there are so many winners out there that werent even nominated. I guess they will remain some of the SC best kept secrets.

The fantasy castle is an older club so the palms layout is more open and comfortable and nicer. As for the girls I would say they have similar quality mostly(5-8). The fantasy castle has a $2 drink night on wed that gets busy. I dont remeber the palms promo nights :( sorry.

Who was the biggest forum poster this year and how many post did they contribute? They should be recognized too. Along with best polls.

I have recently had to work with a newbie (dj blowout) and when I asked if their was any way he could turn it down since I was actually starting losing my voice. He said the reason he kept it so loud was so that guys wouldnt talk to each other on the floor. :/ ?? sad thing is I couldnt talk to them either to sell a dance. The more expirienced djs will leave the dj booth to check on various elements that affect the stage show. I.e. check sound levels from different parts in the club , individually changing lighting to flatter each girls body or show. keeping an eye on the stage to know when to get it cleaned and check on how many dancers are giving dances so he could run a dance special. Also paying attention to the type of crowd that is in at the time to choose break songs they might enjoy. There is more to it than just left click. The newbies that are willing to learn will.

Manual said:Felicia said:Leaving the SC with a girl can risk you having a sex affender record.  How does that work? Legit clubs warn us about leaving the club with anyone that was in the club the same shift. Its legally seen as solicitation. It could be my own granma! but if she was in the club at the same time i was working and meet her outside, it would be both of us getting busted for prostitution. Even when its not the case. Vice do occasionally patrol SC. And they can be dicks. there was a vice once who charged a girl with prostitution for answering back sarcastically that FS was a million bucks.

I wouldnt know what advice to give you other than "that which seems unattainable is that much more appealing". I personally was more promiscuous before I became a dancer. Now most dancers I know will ask for your number because they would like you as a regular customer. If a girl ever hooks up with a guy OTC I am usually the last to want to know. I personally feel that nothing is impossible and I did happen to meet a dancer that ended up marrying her regular after knowing through the club a couple of years and they are still very happy. But for a quick hook up OTC proceed with caution. Leaving the SC with a girl can risk you having a sex affender record. You dont want to end up with more than you bargained for. I would recommend just sticking to the hook up with girls from the bar who are free. No dancer is ever free. Otherwise we would be at the bar.

Thanks guys but its the truth and its what's fair. Both dancers and customers have to keep in mind that the only money girls ever get paid at a club comes from customers. We dancers have to treat a good customer great and avoid spending time with the club customer that treats us bad.

I feel that once you payed the cover at the door you become a club customer. Much like a night club you should be entitled to relax until your sold on something you see that you like. As for us dancers, we are their to sell you on ourselves. If we leave you satisfied. Your more likely fo come back. Even at just an extra $20 from a repeat customer every visit can add up. But for $20 I cant be expected to hang out all night. Tipping on dances is always nice and shows your appreciation. But its not a requirement. Alot of dancer push on tips to help alleviate the payout per dance taken by the club. I.e. deja vu takes 40% of the money you insert in the machines. So out of $20. The dancer is only receiving $12. So if she gets a $5 tip for her dance it will mean she made $17. And the club isnt entitled to her tip money.

milquetoast said:"There's always another girl at another club."   BTW, this thread has gone way too long without the inevitable dancer showing up and firing back about old gross smelly creepy cheapo customers. Count down in 3, 2, 1...   El whiz is super wise. I can't really see you guys having to avoid too many girls from However, I have seen my fair share of train wrecks and for some reason they do sometimes out shine the good. As a dancer I too have to sometimes avoid other dancers.   Drunk onces that lose their phone or money everynight and blame everyone for stealing it and try to start fights.   Druggies that could possibly steal my shit or ask me for stuff like rides or money.   Super negative catty bitches who sit in the dressing room all night complaining about customers and the world and try to intimidate any newbies to the industry. Not cool and therefore not worthy of my awesome friendship. Just saying.    Lucky for me, I haven't had to deal with any of that for a long time. As far as the customers I avoid, Just anybody who is very disrespectful towards me. If they can't treat me with the same courtesy and respect that I show them, Then I really want nothing to do with them. I dont care how much money they SAY they came to spend I let them know I wont dance for them and walk away.  

@ Manual. No prob. Pick my brain anytime. @ LouASS. Nope I never ask for a tip. I feel like it's begging. I'm really a proud person when it comes to that. Weird I know. But I like to know that people enjoyed my dance well enough to offer it. Even when I'm on stage. If some one sits there and doesn't tip I bypass them to the guy that did and thank the tipper personally for enjoying my show.

Manual said: LouASS said: Manual said: LouASS said: Malachai said:Lol!!! Felicia, wrap it up INSIDE my trousers?! Never happen toots. That sounds like the most uncomfortable dance idea I have heard. I don't even like wearing one when I'm in some poon. 3 instances I won't ever strap up are when I'm getting head, rolling down the hershey highway or getting a lap dance. I like your new pics btw, you look great babe. -->LouASS likes this. I've never been told to wear a rubber inside my trousers  while getting a lap dance.   How do they know which PL's goal is to while others not,  do they have telepathy(sp?) or something? If you are a repeat customer, you and the dancer have an understanding of what is going to happen . -->that's a small percentage compared to working 4-5 days a week that most of these dancers do.  Even regulars might be put off if a dancer tells them they must wear a condom that they'd rather go with someone else who doesn't mind the PL inside his pants. I am not looking for a general answer, just want Felicia has experienced.   You always bring all these "maybes" or other circumstances, when I all I am looking for is an answer from the dancer herself.  That's why I am asking Felicia specifically bro.     Sorry for the super long thread. I work about 2-5 days a week. The truth is I dont know for sure if they have wrapped it or not and I dont know how comfortable it is. I never would have thought of it. But my expirience has taught me certain tricks of the stripping trade and I can only asume that when he goes to the mens room right after getting the dance ticket but before our dance that it  could be something they are doing. I only focus on giving a good dance and making my customers feel as and good comfortable as possible. Their individual agendas usually become apparent after less than 5 mins of conversation.   On the other hand have also seen a customer be an asshole and pin down the dancer as he blew and intentionally smother his mess on her as he ignorantly laughed and degraded her because he was drunk. :( Not cool. (It happend in Vegas and those bouncers are hard core.)

And yes guys it is only a small percentage of guys who blow. I might only have about 3 a month depending on how often I work.

Malachai said:Lol!!! Felicia, wrap it up INSIDE my trousers?! Never happen toots. That sounds like the most uncomfortable dance idea I have heard. I don't even like wearing one when I'm in some poon. 3 instances I won't ever strap up are when I'm getting head, rolling down the hershey highway or getting a lap dance. I like your new pics btw, you look great babe. Thanks, Glad you like the pics.  About the wrapping it up let me explain. I never tell them to, Some Customers do it all on their own if they feel it's a possibility to make a mess.    Actually here's the story...... When I was new to dancing I thought that guys never ever could possibly bust in there pants. I figured that just can't happen, me dancing can't be enough. well anyways, dancers would get walked in to the club by the staff and pass by the mensroom on the way to our dressing room. There was the occasional condom wrapper on the floor.( which always made me scratch my head cause I figured that would be a sight seen in the VIP. but A regular customer who always excused himself to the restroom before dancing with me confided that he would always cum during my dance. As I stood there confused because of the lack of mess he told me that The reason he always visited the mens room was to wrap it up and them wash his hands.

mj said: How often do strippers make guys lose their loads? It happens to me all the time.        It depends, Most guys that it happends to with me aren't really planning on it and end up really embarrassed. I could usually pick up the the suttle ques given right before and tactfully avoid the explosion. I have also had the type that its their goal to try and blow there load. All I ever ask is for the curtousy of wrapping it up (In the mens room of course) before you get the dance if you intend to blow. The way I see it, No one ever wants a dancer to start there period on them. it would be gross. So I don't want anyone's juices on me. It's equally gross.  How often, My best answer would be Randomly and sometimes more often than others. I know that sounds vaigue but it's the best I could do and its the truth.

In the old skool days at Deja Vu THAT NEVER HAPPEN TO ME where the waitress would come over to asked if I wanted to buy the dancer a drink.  Now the past few years don't matter which deja vu club I'm at  I get asked that question if I have a dancer sitting on my lap or sitting right next to me.   Not sure why they do this at the Vu's since the dancers(I don't believe) have to meet any drink quota or sell drinks.   The waitresses have to compete in drink sales in order to attain the best shifts.  

Thanks Manual. I figure it couldn't hurt to do it. It can only help.

I like the roll calls. They give customers an Idea of what to expect before their visit. Zbone rarely comes up in my conversation with customers so how many of them view it or not I cannot say. My guess is most ZBONERs like to stay anonymous.

My 3 would be 1. "So what's your real name? I want to get the real you." My response "well I'm sorry but you came to the wrong place It's a strip club not speed dating. If you would like a dance I would be more than happy to hook it up" 2."So do you make alot of money?" My response "Well Duh! Lol. I thought everyone knew that." 3. "Why do you do this? Isn't it degrading of women?" My response "Really? Cause I'm comfortable in my own skin and I don't loose any sleep at night. I have alot of respect for myself and that's all I really care about. But you on the other hand don't seem to like this environment. So Why are you putting yourself through a situation you don't like?" Now I am very guilty of always asking if a customer their name, If he has been in there before along with there name and where they are from. Or where they are coming in from. It's simply to build a little mental profile. If they are a first timer to the place I usually give a rundown of dance options and prices. Where they are from I feel is simple conversation and it helps me relate to a customer.

Ronin said:Ok first of all let's all chill a bit. Take a deep breath. Take some deep breaths and say WOOOOSAAAAH :)

I am the Mayor of 2 :)

I think you should let us do our thing like qbg said, if you dont like what we do but you like us give us the constructive criticism. If we are willing to adjust to make it more pleasurable for you then we will if not then everyone can move on. We all should try to figure out what it is you want and even though you may flat out say it we need to figure out how to perform within our comfort zones and achieve it.

Thanks Spawn. I had a great time talking to you last night. Thanks for keeping me company. xoxo. tons of smooches

Lol. ;)

LMAO! You certainly get around.

Ever since my first club way back when. I was conditioned to the 10%DJ/ 5%security/ 5%management. Plus 5% bartenders because they handled dance tickets. So If I made no money, they made no money off me. However, every club has different tipping standards and Most clubs that I have been to recently don't require you to tip managers. Because when the managers get tipped then he is no longer really working for the club owner, He is now working for the girls that tip him the best. and he will be willing to go against the owners wishes to cater to the girls if he feels he can get away with it. I do just like you guys, prefer a relaxed tip out expectation. When I worked at a certain club way back when in city of industry, I had a bad experience where I had to sell customers nude dances at $40 a pop from that my cut was $22. Not to mention I was required to sell 8 ladies drinks at $10 each. I sold 5 dances that night and 3 drinks. After paying out For the drinks I didn't sell I wasn't very happy. But when it was time to tip out, I had 5 different employees chasing me down demanding $1 per dance tip out each. So after feeling like the worlds biggest sucker for dishing out the cash. I Decided never to go back. Gratuity for me is never a sure expectation. So I really dislike clubs where the staff members aren't appreciative of what ever I give them. Old habits are hard to break so standard is still for me 10% DJ/ 5% security. My expectations of them are: DJ: read the crowd, are they hip-hop, rock or trance. give me suggestions. pump up the crowd to the best of your ability because I understand that some crowds can't be helped. If you go out of your way to attain my favorite music then I really will love you for ever and will be extra generous when it comes to my tip. Security: Stand there and look tough but when customers come up to you, be super polite, helpful and courteous. If you hook me up with some good intel. (i.e. Hey this customer is looking for a latina.) Then I give 15% of what I made off that customer to them for that lead. This is a tipping industry and I understand it's what we all live off of. But I don't just stand there and expect it. I work my hardest to earn them, so I feel my coworkers should also. ( I think this was my longest post ever!) so sorry. Lol. I had to get it all out.

BTW, bolt ons or not. She has got one killer body IMHO.

No problem. She is super cool and down to earth so she became one of the few I am a fan of.

  The Star from Nalin Palin, Lisa Ann will be performing at California girls. For more info I added the club link below. Dont miss out. ( I know I wont.) http://caligirls714.com/home-page/  

this one i always thought was funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaCqZZ2u6iA

NY: I love that link. it's so fitting.

Z Bone said: I remember the same thing at the location that is now the Library, and Imperial Showgirls in Pico Rivera, and Ecstasy many years ago in Northridge. At Ecstasy, there was a lady that was video taping everybody coming and going from the parking lot of the deli restaurant. Some people sure have a lot of free time. I wish I had that much free time. I could so something productive.     haha thats when I started dancing and I was at Imperial, It was hilarious.  It may not have been the best thing for the people picketing because EVERYONE in southern california new about the club because all the free (all be it controversial) publicity we got.  This post was edited by Felicia at January 31, 2012 11:28 AM PST

For the latest schedule be sure to check my calendar at: http://onefallenangel.com/Calendar.html

LMFAO!!! now thats funny

Tuesday 1/24 - Friday 1/27  7pm - 2am  Palm Gentlemens Club  2540 N Palm Dr. Signal Hill, 90755

Lets say this if you have gone to the Rhino during primetime hours its packed, the girls are all super hot so you may or may not get lots off attention, depends on how much you spend really. At the Horse about 95% are super hot the other 5% are just hot and it doesnt usually get super packed till about 2:30am so you get more attention there. the club is real nice though and even though it doesnt look it when you first walk in its pretty big.

Depends on your mood, Saphire and Rhino are Nice for the big clubs, I work between those 2 and Crazy Horse 3, Just the best tip I can give you is dont take a cab. Call any of the clubs and they will send a limo to pick you up for free (except for the tip of course) and you will get free entry into the club. The good part of CH3 is its not so packed you can get more attention