Great tale, but now you need to reveal this 'unbelievable' selling-your-soul story to your fellow PL's

knottyboi said:Not really a rejection story just an observation here. Reading about the girls who refuse to do "cheap" dances. I learned a long time ago, it was more cost effective to do a VIP than getting a couple dances here and there. So when i roll, i just pick out a girl and do a VIP. Most of the time it is my first meeting with them, They ask if i want a dance and i say "how about we do a half hour?" Most of the time they look shocked, like what the fuck is wrong with THIS guy. But then the session ends up pretty great. So what is funny to me is, these girls act like they expect you to buy half hour up front, but if you actually do? Well you can tell by their expression it doesn't happen. That means most of these girls are actually rejecting their real customers, either by ignoring them or being downright rude. Sometimes it is really fun to go into a club and picking out a girl when all the others are texting their asses off. Knowing after we are done her friends are gonna ask "where did you go?" and she will say "that guy that nobody asked, asked me for an hour and a half!" -->KB, No offense to you,  But not knowing what to expect out of a dancer's Dance and taking the Strippa straight into the VIP room is risky cuz you can get stuck(with a bad or LAME dancer who doesn't do sh*t) with still having to pay the VIP Price of $150, $200, or even $300 price at some places.  Now if you know the dancer(have seen & dance with her before) and have had good chemistry I understand doing a VIP right from the start,  But I usually recommend guys who asked on regards to a dancers Mileage TO ALWAYS TEST-DRIVE the dancer in a $10 or $20 dance and maybe do another dance and if it's good than upgrade(go to the VIP) from there if you like. That is what I always do just like Test-Driving a Car.  I will test drive Cars just to get a good feel before making up my mind whether it's worth buying  the (full Price or not). Yup. Me too. I would never get a nude or VIP without a test drive first. It's too risky. This post was edited by Willywad at April 20, 2013 8:07 PM PDT

Nope, I posted the whole message. Unfortunately, we'll never know, because we can't contact them anymore :(

They wrote back to me, although the profile has been removed.   he goes out of his way to talk shit! we get it he dosnt like our club and he dosent come to our club. but some of the things he said are awful and wer not dealing with it anymore.

I know it's a business, but I never say no. I think to myself, if I was at a bar, I never want rejection, so I try never to reject a girl at a SC. I say, I just got here, and am going to hang out a bit before I get a dance, or I just got a dance and am not ready for another one yet. I find that this technique mitigates the bad attitude. We should expect good attitudes always, but I just assume try and avoid conflict at all costs. I don't go to the SC for attitude.

Sounds like my kind of night. Wish I could have been there. Someone should put together a Zbone club crawl.

Get story Malachi. It might just inspire me to talk to a random woman this weekend. If I do, I'll report back on the outcome.

The club with the longest songs I've ever been to is Starz. They never cut a song short. They just play songs from the beginning to the end, no matter how long they are.

I try to let them down easy by saying I'm hanging out now, but maybe later. The maybe later part always keeps them in a better mood. Even if I have intention of getting a dance later, most girls won't come back, and I've never had a girl get mad. Rejection is hard for me, so I can only imagine how hard it is for some girls, especially the ugly ones to get rejected all night long. But I guess if you don't deal well with rejection, you probably won't last very long in a strip club.

Sax said:Let's all go get a lap dance from a girl from a different race every day and share the love. Let's bring the rainbow party to the rainbow coalition. I want some contrast in my lap, baby! It's all good. This is one of the main reasons I wander from club to club. I like the diversity. As long as the tits aren't fake, I'll get a dance from any dancer, no matter of build, beauty, or race. It would suck to have strippers walk past and ignore me because of my race though. Fuck those ignorant bitches.

I've never asked for a number, but some dancers have given me their numbers after a dance. And i have, mistakenly, given out my number, twice upon dancer request. For me, the number exchange happens more often than any other club at Starz. The two times I've given out my number, I received a couple of texts followed by a series of calls. Too many calls actually. I never answered, but got messages ranging from their schedule, to wanting to spend time together outside of the club. After about 6 calls without a response, they generally lose interest, but it kind of freaks me out. I don't give out my number anymore. I can just imagine my phone sitting out when I'm visiting my parents' house, or a girlfriends house. A dancer calls and my mom answers my phone, or a lady friend answers the phone. Certainly not a conversation I care to have with my mom.

Dani, is it strange being here and reading what we're saying about you? It's different when we're in the club with our buddies, you pass by, and we mention how beautiful you are- But here, on Zbone, it must be a bit peculiar.

I know you mentioned DVNH, but if you're looking for thick women with plenty of milage, and enjoy the ebony, I would recommend Starz. That pretty much describes every girl in the place. I found it a little strange my first time, being pretty much the only white dude in the place, but both the patrons and dancers have always been very nice and accommodating. Plus the songs are full length, the dances are just $15, and they serve alcohol. If there was a little more variety in the dancers this would be my all time favorite club.

I find the nicer, and more respectful I am, the better the dances become. Dancers seem to love my shyness, and usually open up pretty quickly to my needs. But no matter how charming they can be, I always look at it as an act. Even if it feels real, I just assume they're playing a role- acting out my fantasy.

LouASS said: Also don't worry in making them uncomfortable as long as you are polite with your request you might be surprised more times than not you'll end up getting what you want out of your dance. !!! Thanks for the advice LouASS. Next time I get asked the question I'll be more forthcoming with my response and report back on my experience.

I tend to gravite towards variety in the club, just like LouASS. I'd rather not experience the same dancer twice, unless there was something overwhelmingly exceptional. And even then, it never seems to be as good as the first time around. But outside the club, I am drawn to consistency. I'm attracted to the familiar, women who I can feel comfortable with, and I think that takes time. I don't think looks play a very big part of who I get a dance from, or who I try to date outside of the club. The only thing that really turns me off both in the club and out is bolt ons.

I don't really coach a dancer, but if there's something she does that I really like, I tend to let her know, most of the time, subtly with a little "mmmm" or if she's not getting the hint, and I really want it bad enough, I let her know specifically what she did that was so appealing. One time a dancer asked if I prefer a fast dance or a sensual dance, and I responded with the latter. On two other occasions dancers have asked what I like. I get nervous and don't know what to say for two reasons. One, I don't want to make them uncomfortable with a request out of their milage zone, and two because I don't want to say my fantasies out loud. It kind of kills the concept of the fantasy. Both times when asked what I like I responded, by saying, "I like you". Has anyone else ever had that question asked from a dancer? and if so, how have you responded?

I say no now, but really knowing myself, being in the moment, and full aroused, I probably wouldn't think twice and just dig right in. She would really have to be direct about it though, because I don't normally understand subtle hints, and am pretty shy. I'd like to think I have more dignity than that, but I probably don't. That being said, it would be my preference that she was a baldy.

I'm not sure why, but the back of a dancers shoulders are really attractive to me. But I can't really tell if she has nice soft shoulders until the dance has started. I'm also a fan of the soft flat stomach. I don't think I go to clubs enough to know who my favorites are. LouAss, I'm also a fan of the long pointy nipples, do you have any current favs who're still around?

Great review, with the trio Felicia/Dani/Cassandra so popular around here, I was thinking about visiting, and I think you've just peaked my interest enough for me to make a visit.

The male gender does not get a tip from me at a strip club. You're tip is working with naked women. -The waitress gets a 1 dollar tip for a drink. -If there's alcohol, the bartender might get more. -If I'm at the rail, and you acknowledge my existence, you get two dollars. If I get a little extra attention and you're cute 3-5 bucks. -When I'm not at the rail, I almost never tip, but that's probably because I'm shy and don't want to call attention to myself. -If you give me an air dance, I don't tip. -If it's decent milage, and I get more than one dance, I usually give $20 bucks. -If you make it your business to be sure you're my last dance of the evening, I generally give $30 - $40 dollars. What about tipping a girl who sits with you and chats for a bit? I generally say yes to a dance with a girl who makes an effort to start a conversation, but if there's no dance, do you guys tip? I've never tipped in that situation, does that make me cheap? My feeling is that if the conversation was good, there should be no exchange of money as we were both enjoying each other's company equally. And what if a girl gives you a quick shoulder rub without asking? Do you tip then? I never have, mainly because she never asked me if I wanted my shoulders rubbed.

Back when I was 21, and enjoying my second time in a strip club in Vegas I got a dance from, at the time, who I thought was the most beautiful woman in the world. Of course, she was naked in my lap, so that may have skewed my perspective a little. When the dance was over I told her, "I think I might be in love." She said, "You're mistaking lust for love." She was right. When I go into a club, it's to have a good time. For me, in the club, it's all lust, it's all fantasy- It's not reality.

Dancers who don't shave their legs- It's the biggest turn off next to a dancer with a rude odor. I'm also not a fan of the waitress asking me if i want to buy a drink for the dancer, especially when they don't serve alcohol–, Yes, that's you SR.