From what I hear, YES it's the same Honey at BayGirls.  She just had to get out of the area to new surroundings!  The funny part is, she told me last year she had to get out of the business, because her daughter was asking too many questions of why MOMMIE can't stay home at night OR Stays out so long?  Who know by now, it's another HONEY working there. I will ask someone who works there to check it out if it's the same Honey.   I found this from November 2012   Sweethoney back in Kali working at baygirls in Torrance Like · Comment · November 14, 2012 This post was edited by Spawn at May 18, 2013 1:09 AM PDT

NOPE! That's past History!

Nice trip report! I too think the Drink Hustle is just NUTS! I used to come to the club when Honey worked there, I would just look at her and she would tell the waitress NO! LOL!

I have no clue if the victim had family or not. So I can't comment on that question.  But I do know for a fact that Giovani is the owner of one club and Stuart the other!

Sall Posted - Thanks Ram_Pie for posting that article from The LA Times. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that don't know that the Owner of this Club is a CONVICTED First Degree MURDERER! Did you know that Freemason???     Just to set the record straight - Mike Woods CHILDREN SOLD the club to some dude from Phoenix Arizona also with his first name MIKE! Mike Woods kids sold both LAX and Valley Bare to this dude!  Now this dude from Phoenix lost interest and has SOLD 1 (Valley Bare Elegance) to Giovani (who was the manager at the time) 2) and the second LAX has been sold to GOOD OLD STUART of (Industrial Strip and ROUGE clubs)...  SO NO! Mr Mike Woods isn't making one stinking penny while in jail!!!

Manuel - Is Audrina the Porn Star Audrina?  She used to work at VIP and went back to DVNH.  Yeah, she can get a bit testy when she hears NO! LOL Nice Trip Report

And How many BOWLS did you and Ms. Toe Licker Smoke? Funny Shit Kissing after a Toe Job!

Words just escape me on the Master Piece of words.

Ron - my Wingman and I used the hang at Nic's, security has big guns not just pea shooters, so that's your first clue when you walk in. The club is not for the faint hearted. Like that old saying "Instant Asshole just Add Alcohol". At 12:30am you have to look over your shoulder constantly, so many dudes and dancers that have had one too many, so we bail around 11:45 - 12am. Not surprised about this last pho pah at Nic's. This post was edited by Spawn at April 5, 2013 11:18 AM PDT

Triple J - Melina was Armenian / Italian 5'2" with almost the same curves as Valene and had some interesting ventures outside of the club!  If you were on her good side, your dances where off Da Chart (did many with her), BUT! if you were on her Bad side, well lets say I hope your wearing a STEEL Cup!    Just before she left the club, there were some dancers getting into a brawl in the lobby area of the club by the smoking area, Melina took off her shoes and just proceded to bring order OR ELSE!  One Ebony babe had a big mouth and Melina shut it real quick! She was Sexy with monster Ta Ta's, at the same time knew how to take care of herself, well except until the dudes condom broke! LOL! Yes she is happy Mom and wish her all the best!

Here is also a copulation of babe Reviews from VIP Showgirls:   Dalia @ ViP ShOwGirLS Malika @ ViP ShOwGirLS Obsession @ ViP ShOwGirLS Cherry @ ViP ShOwGirLS Cami @ ViP ShOwGirLS Paris at VIP Caramel @ ViP ShOwGirLS Valene @ ViP ShOwGirLS Allure @ ViP ShOwGirLS Lexy @ ViP ShOwGirLS Megan @ ViP ShOwGirLS M1arilyn @ ViP ShOwGirLS cASSandra @ ViP ShOwGirLS "MARISOL" @ VIP Showgirls DJ @ VIP Showgirls Loveina @ ViP ShOwGirLS Hazel @ ViP ShOwGirLS Kitty @ ViP ShOwGirLS Angelique @ ViP ShOwGirLS Jasmine @ ViP ShOwGirLS Brittney @ ViP ShOwGirLS Cinnamon @ ViP ShOwGirLS Natalie @ ViP ShOwGirLS Tessa @ ViP ShOwGirLS Summer at VIP   Thank You Everyone for taking the time to post and to read!                                        

OH! Do you mean when she walks up to you, sits down and whispers in your ear and I quote" Can you give me 30 seconds, so that I can SEDUCE you into a Lap Dance" unquote.  I politely looked at her and said............NO!  Then a very perplexed look came all over her face, like WHAT! NO!  It's like nobody ever refuses her, how dare you refuse a lap dance.....So THEGURU is Spot On!

That was one of the most entertaining Trip Reports I have read in a long time! No offense Sir LouASS, but Monga Akbar has you beat in this trip report!

I live 16 houses away from this place and have never stepped foot inside!  I was inside 2 years ago by invitation from Felecia the XXX Porn Star, never been back again!  On the weekends when I drive by, handful of cars in the parking lot!  This place must be the White Elephant of the chain!

Hey Mr. WiseGuy! Nice trip report!  We can car pool next Wednesday if you wish! Dalia is 100% the hottest waitress I've laid eyes on! My ATF is non other than Brandi! OMG those monster Ta ta's and booty, great personality and lap dances well I guess a gentleman can't Kiss and Tell!  I've got some FREE Passes for ya, and Yes Moe Is Da Man!  Have you gone to their other club that Moe has opened?  Talk to you before next Wednesday!

From what I remember, NO Tats! Every thing Malachai said is 100% true, Marisol is one of a kind dancer. Beautiful face, soft voice and what a Bod!  I did just a 10 minute VIP with her and if was pure BLISS!

LouASS - I'm pretty sure it's Kitty with the curvacious booty! TriplJ - I have plenty more passes especially for a dedicated VIP Showgirls customer. I wiil PM you when I will be in da house! Mostly on the weekends!

Nice trip report TripleJ - My comment about Kitty was her Booty and top looked a lot like Brittney. As for her dances, I have NO Clue!  We need to cross paths, and I will give you LIFE Time VIP card to VIP Showgirls, then you don't need to get passes.  The club has another new Ebony princess named ENTICE.

Nice Review  DDA! Jacob (the owner) has been running this place for at least 15 - 20 years.  Laps have been $20 for ever. Is there still a little shelf or draw bridge between you and the dancer or just a chair?  The DJ's have played music exactly as you described for ever.  The place used to be a real hoping place, but it is a Good place to have a few drinks before heading to any club!

I agree with the other PL's, this is one Compulation of Intel! I salute the DDA and EL Wiz! Happy New Year!

Jenna was going to nursing school while she was dancing, living down in Huntington Beach to top it off. It might be that she has graduated and some lucky dude is getting one of hell of a Sponge bath! I'll keep looking!

She and Viper left together a long time ago. Have no clue of specifics.

Last I heard long time ago, Dior was either at Spearmint Rhino Sherman Oaks on Oxnard OR XPOSED.

ROXY has an incredible day job she loves 100%. She danced at VIP when she was under 21. I am assuming - When she had her birthday maybe 6-8 months ago, her options in life have changed. I really liked her too! Her dances where ;-)

I want to say Thank you to those PL's that showed up at the FIRST EVER ZCON 2.0 at Fantasy Castle. I also want to Thank our host Fantasy Castle and their GM for a festive night and for all the tasty food coming out of the kitchen.   Our waitress Monica was Da Bomb, always checking up if our drinks where cold and fresh! Thanks. The Sampler platters coming out of the kitchen were really tasty and kept colming courtesy of our HOST GM Moe. Thank You   To all the dancers who made our night Jessie, Maya, Brandi, Tanya and all others thanks for making us &   Lastly the Good Old American saying: You Just Don't Know What You Had Until it's Gone! That being said - This was My Very Last ZCON! I'm throwing in the towel! Finished!

To the all mighty creator of Z2 - Thank You! Mercedes Ashley will forever be silenced on my personal wall! Plus all the other features are a great addition!

Nice TR

Nice trip report King of Booty Spending LouASS! Jay worked at VIP for more than a year before she moved over to DVNH. She is the total package with a smile!

Alex - Nice trip review, just one correction, Joy is 100% Egyptian! I was standing next to the floater in the lap dance area when you guys sat down. I watched Cami and hit the road.

Sal - It will be TOPLESS! Manual - Thanks

I forgot to mention that this club is OPENING another club 7 miles away near Delamo and Carson, it is going to be bigger, much larger stage. I think since you saw that FREAK show these are new owners.

After viewing those bodacious (*)(*) of ONYX on Zbone the PL community wanted to know are those real OR real expensive? After an invite from manager of Fantasy Castle (FC), my Wingman and I said why not! First I want to say a very BIG Thank You to MO the GM for the invite and your Hospitality! The GM Mo has given me the Green Light to put together a ZCON, which I will try to put together for sometime in October. I will work with him to make sure it will be a fun night! We arrived around 8:40pm and where greeted by this HUGE security guard (for those who know me, this guy made me look small and there were 3 more like him). As you walk through the door there was this cute brunette selling drinks, which this night was $2 Beers (all kinds of them).  Right after the Beer lady is the Lap dance area, 1 room 10-12 booths and one of those Big Boy floaters.  Dances are Bikini, then again with the right dancer YMMV! The club has the right sound   level, the DJ keeps it real and the stage lights don't blind you, getting to the stage is a bit of work, chairs are all around. Not a huge a stage, just enough to showcase the dancers. Also there is a small 8-10 table VIP area for the high rollers! After that we look at the main room and thought we died and went to (*)(*) heaven. My Wingman and I sat down, just getting the feel of the place and check out the babes.  Finally I said I off to find ONYX! I go to the bar there is this gorgeous Latina with a rack to die for, I asked her excuse me are you ONYX? NO, my name is Brandi, looking at those DD's YUM-O!, then she said I'll get her for you, I said no problem, we just got here, I'll find her.  I turn around, here comes this tall brunette DDD's 5'9" knockout, she said her name is Parson. In the mean time, my Wingman was off to the lap area, so Parson sat down and we chatted.  YES Brother Sal DDD's REAL! Now the only turn off with this babe was, that she wasn't next to me 45 seconds already wanted me to buy her a drink, ofcourse she ordered a mini Champagne bottle $10 or something like that. My Wingman came back, so just as we were off to the lap dance area, the DJ calls her to the stage! YES! There is a GOD!  Back to my quest to find ONYX, asked another DD, NOPE, finally at the bar there was those Bodacious Tata's, I walked up to ONYX, introduced my self (with my REAL name). I told her my buddy and I saw her (*)(*) twins on Zbone and decided to COME ON DOWN! Ofcourse she thought I was BS-ing her, I told her, go ask the manager, he invited us to come down.  next thing I know ONYX all 5'9" DD's total woman was sitting with my Wingman and me. She is a very light skinned Ebony Princess with Italian and something else mixed in and just beautiful. 5 minutes later I was headed to the Lap Dance area to sample the twins, it was a nice, sensual lap dance. Remember ALL DANCES ARE BIKINI! $20 ea. After a coupla dances we went back and her girlfriend joined us and she too was in the DD class with a booty! Yes there were some babes with a B cup, but most of the dancers would of made Brother Sal and all other boobie (.)(.) lovers real happy.  Most of the dancers are Latinas and Ebony Princess's. There was this tall Blonde babe. I'd say 40% of the babes have tats from tiny to WTF? There was this one Ebony babe from the front looked as normal as can be, but whe she turned around both of her Booty Cheeks were completely covered in a major Tat art work, as in WTF! It got a bit warm in the club, so I went outside to the front and found Brandi sitting outside taking a break. The security guard sits there, so the girls are safe. We chatted a bit, went back in and headed for the lap dance area.  Let's say I was introduced to those DD's on a very personal level and a Gentleman never Kisses and tells, needless to say I will be back soon!!!     A Big Shout Out to Andy E - the publisher of "Private Dancer" magazine was Good to see you again last night! This club is FULL Alcohol, Topless entertainment on the stage and $20 Bikini Lap dances. The music is a really good mix, the waitress's are very attractive and keep the drinks coming and the prices are really good. Here is their facebook page and those 4 girls do work at the club: https://www.facebook.com/fantasy.castle For those who want to know from the Valley (Burbank & 405 frwy) to the Orange off ramp down the 405 Frwy was 35 minutes, using the Diamond  lane 80% of the way. Once your past the 605 Frwy on the 405, look for Orange Ave, get off and turn right.  The very first light is Spring St. turn left, you'll see a huge car dealership and Walnut St, next, turn right, go a football field down and your there. Tons of FREE parking, enytrance is from the lot side. Here is their Specials: MONDAY......... all BOTTLES $ 1 and bottle half offTUESDAY......... all corona $ 2 and $ 1 taco $ 2 corona bottles $ 3 tequila shot $150 bottle patronWEDNESDAY.....all beer $2 and all drinks $3 expect top shelfTHURSDAY .......all Domastic beer $ 2 All ladys in freeFRIDAY .......... VIP party reserve table with ($100) offSATURDAY........Couples in Free. FANT­ASY CASTLE­ !!2800 walnu­t ave sign­al hill ca­ 90755 - 562.427.9657

All gone my friend! I'm at Classy Lady right now, free BBQ! Babes and Ice Cold Beer.

For those that don't know, 7557 is the sister club of Alameda Club downtown. They switch dancers from each club back and forth. Juan is the manager, short stocky guy. They let the mileage go for a while, but it got out of hand (or in some hands!), LE came in a slapped them with a fine. So now it's LM or YMMV. During the day it can be a real fun play ground, plus a decent lunch!

Manuel - Yep! That was my very first time with cASSandra! When I took her hand to go pay for the dance, she smiled and said " this is akward ", I smiled and said first time for a lap dance. We're more friends than customer dancer relationship.

Sal - She said she will be working days and nights. I will see what nights she plans to work. Iwill also try to get her to pick a Fri. Or Sat. Night, so the King of Boobies can come in!

Top of the morning to Y'All,   My Wingman and I  made it to VIP around 10:15pm, came in the Victory door and adjusted our eyes to the lighting. First dancer that came up to say Hi was Kleo! She is ALL Woman as my good friend LouASS would atest. Finally we sat down on what I call the bus bench, that long bench that runs North and South along the Topless area.  I have to give a major shout out to Tory T the DJ, he was playing some really nice Techno music, never hear any rap, of Hip Hop all night which was GREAT!   We sat right across from the main stage, to refresh our memories of who is who, when Cami and Angie came over and sat with us. many of you know Ms. Cami Smalls, but Angie is a South American import that has to be the best kept secret in the club. Her lap dances are worth every penny, I'm not a big Tat fan, but hers is a beautiful, colorful semi sleeve on her right shoulder. My Wingman took off with Cami, Kleo came back to sit with me, only because it was a bit slow in the club.   As luck would have it, just as Kleo sat down, I asked her if she knew who that blonde was on the stage, she says "That's Geneva", I turned to her and said are you sure, she said, Ya, we both worked at XPOSED, I know who she is.  She had a really nice stage show, but unfortunately she was a bit on the thin side for my taste and could probably wrap my arms around her twice! Maybe 5'4", had her blonde hair in a Pony Tail, No Tats, A Cups and thin. NOT Skinny, just thin! Well that just blew my desire to take her for a spin right out the window and said ----- PASS!   Next up was the Ladies Show case, I did something I have never done and that was to go get Cassandra for a VIP Lap dance - Now that was more like it, that Booty was dancing for me the whole time, she was sensual, sexy and I'm glad I picked her.  I went and sat down, who comes walking out of the $150 lap dance area? KYLA!  She comes over and sits with me, I wish her again a very Happy Birthday (2 days ago), then she says Oh! Shit! I have the guys money for another $150 dance! So off she goes. The floater told me that was her 3rd 1/2 hour with this guy!   Music started and Natalie comes up on the stage, now she is one hell of a sexy Latina, Tall, gorgeous and knows how to put on a show. She looks a lot like Lina, only she has C Cups to Lina's A-B Cups. The only problem I have with Natalie is that she 90% of the time is chewing gum, even during her stage shows, which to me is a BIG NO NO! After Natalie, was Cinnamon, she always gives my Wingman and I the best birds eye view two guys could get on the stage. There were a few other tippers, she flashed them and we had her all to our selves.   Back we go to the Bus Bench and immidiately we get attacked by Alejandra, nice girl, just not our type.  Justice came and sat for a few, she has always been a fave of mine at the club, real deal of a babe. Stacy came by, flashed a smile.    It was time for me to get the roll call which amounted to 6 more dancers than I posted earlier, than I felt like a Pin Ball game walking towards the Victory exit. The list that said goodnight with a hug and a kiss started with Cinnamon, Angie, Kyla, Natalie, Kleo, Joy and finally Cami by the time we got to the Victory door. And that was 11:45pm. I live close to VIP and had the RTRC up by 12:00am!   All in all it was a refreshing night getting caught up on who is who, a dance or two and adios!   A new dancer by the name of KIM was hired yesterday, she is 5'9" tall, brunette hair past her shoulders and "Drum Roll PLease" 36 DD's (natural), that look spectacular. She is maybe in her late 20's early thirties, really nice smile, pleasant to talk to, chatted with her this afternoon.   Also for those who like em tall as trees "ASHLEY' has to be 5'10" (bare feet) slender, B cups, short Blonde Hair, one small Tat on left side by the hip area. If you know anything about music, she is a very talented musician, who is a teacher during the day and dancer by night! A real sweetheart.   Last but not least I need to say it was good to see my fellow PL "Way2earlyman", he and I have gone back for a long time as friends. I told him his new Blog is Off Da Charts!   Lastly - LOL! Sal-Acious - Marilyn was a No Show!

Manuel - I am sure many of us had the problem which is now fixed for now. I had the problem and I know MercedesAshley had it too, so you weren't alone!

BIG No! Nice naturals C & D cups, would be Trouble (nights) Samantha (Days) Brittney D's and Booty too (Nights) and lastly Valene (mostly Nights)

OK - I did one better, I called Star Strip just now, she still works there AND the door guy said 95% she will be in tonight! Double check before you go (310)652-1741 Your WelCUM!

Yep her name is Jenna 34 GGG's ! Blonde, about 5'4", No Tats, beautiful face and smile. Call the Star Strip first to see if she is still working there! Afterwards a Trip report would be greatly appreciated!

God Father's was Gotham City, which used to be Bat Man A Go Go - Your Welcum!

Things like or arrows ==>  or Love don't work Paaaleeeese fix - I need them for my roll calls

My nickname "SPAWN" has been with me since I was a young lad, WHY? I'm a huge collector of comic books and I just loved Spawn when that series came out! I have been Spawn since day one on Zbone 1.0 when I was at Bob's Classy Lady some 18 years ago.

YIKES! I started this thread because I was curious on why WE/Z2 have sooooo many members, but it's only 20-40 members post! Plus the clubs with their RTRC's. Much of the intel has been good from a PL perspective as well as some dancers chimed in too! Please don't get into turning sentences around into he said, she said, yes I know it can be fun, just don't start getting out of hand. So far I love this thread. As for the chemistry or do YOU click with a dancer all has to do with TUDE! As in attitude. Yeah the Old saying "Money talks and BS Walks" To this day I still talk at least once a week with dancers (4-6) who became my friends at Bob's Classy Lady, that's what 15-18 years ago? There are many schools of thought on how to treat a dancer, and YES WE PL's have debated and beat that subject into the ground on Z1. My approach is to treat dancers as human beings OR treat them as I would want to be treated, I can walk into may clubs and know dancers and always get a smile. I used to have a decent cash flow, but now being retired other priorities take precedence. So the money angle works for some and for me is just be yourself. Please keep this thread going with intel and humor and keep the legal jargon out. I've learned that everyone on this planet has an opinion, so let's hear them! Thank You everyone!

We all need to remember one major factor, Mr Z fronted out of his pocket for 20 years hosting fees and worked his Hiny off so WE the friendly PL's can post, rant and OUT Dancers on Zbone 1.0 Maybe just maybe the new format of Z2 was designed to create advertising and take the financial burden off of Z and make the site a bit more gender friendly. No need to go to GOOGLE when we have Way2EarlyMan! LOL! Having dancers like Carmen, Cassandra, Dani, Felicia, Maddux posting makes it more user friendly. As for posting Negative reviews, sometimes we PL's have to tell it like it is and what ever happens happens. LouASS posts reviews with No Holds Barred. He tells it like it is. Lastly I would like to Thank everyone who's posting on this thread, makes for Great Informative reading and insight on everyone's views...

There is a place for Roll Calls, unfortunately there are a handful of DJ's and managers that just absolutely will NOT post in the right place. I always go to the club page on the right there it says plain and simple Discussions & RTRC. On our Home or Main page on the right side it says "RECENT Discussions" All RTRC's should be there. It's real simple. This has been the frustrating task of making people (PL's) post in the right place, so it makes it frustrating for PL's like you. As for the dynamics, yes it does invite new people which is nice. On the old Zbone board it was the same 10-15 PL's with 10 handles each except for Benn, Louis, Skylapper, Tai-Pan and ofcourse MR. Z to name a few. It was also WAAAY to easy to hide behind those names and INSULT, SLANDER and just be 100% Grade A A-Holes with Ha Ha it's funny! The board is designed for info, tongue and cheek humor, fun pics and intel on clubs, dancers as well as some PL's . Don't forget Zbone 1.0 was around for more than 20 years, Zbone 2.0 is in it's 6th month, after the 1st year I'm sure there will be some good hard looks on what works and doesn't work!

Tillrules - Thank You and I think you hit the nail on the head!

Here's another funny one: I was driving down Sepulveda Blvd. one Sat. afternoon many moons ago when I spotted this absolutely gorgeous Pamela Anderson lookalike, with her top wide open just tied in a knot. So I pulled over, she hoped in asked her where she was headed, she said the liquor store on the next block. I pulled in and asked her why the liquor store? She said she was getting married the next day and just wanted to have her smokes ready for the BIG DAY! So I said I guess since your getting married you don't want to fool around, she then says, coming to think of it, I never had a bachelorette party why not, but since I don't know you how about $5.-? FIVE BUCKS! Hell Yeah! So we checked into a hotel on Sepulveda and were having a really fun time when all of a sudden out of nowhere there's a pounding on the door "OPEN UP - IT'S THE POLICE" Mr. Happy was Now Mr. Sad! The blonde bombshell was freaking out, grabbed her clothes and ran into the bathroom. I put my pants on, opened the door and said Can I help you? Just then here comes the Korean manager NO! NO! NEXTA DOOR, NEXTA DOOR!!! Police officer says, "Sorry to bother you". Well that killed the mood, I took the bride to be where she wanted to go and dropped her off. Man she was fine, she gave me Kiss goodbye said Thanks and that was it! The dude in the next room had a heart attack, he called 911, that's why the police arrived.

LouA$$ all I can say is that Felicia and I had an absolutely snuggly time at VIP last night, so Add VIP Showgirls to Felicia's list. I know tonight she will be at Anaheim Showgirls with XXX Star Lisa Ann.