I've interrupted by accident. You learn to watch what you're saying at these places... I asked the waitress, who has always been really friendly, "hey, is so and so here tonight?" because I hadn't seen her. She goes, "oh! I'll go get her for you!" I'm like... nooooo... but she goes running off - about 2 rows in front of me to the left and I realized the reason I hadn't seen her was she was sitting with someone with her back to me. So then it was like a slow motion trainwreck, the waitress leans in, the dancer looks back at me... and I'm just like... hey... LOL! Luckily she knew me from before and that I wasn't pushing for a dance that very moment... but yeah... kinda awkward there for a moment...

this goes into my beef with the whole zbone setup. There's too many places to post right now, now you're going to add ANOTHER? The clubs don't even bother to post on their own pages, where the "free passes" section SHOULD be anyway. If you were looking for passes to whatever, Rouge or DVNH, wouldn't you goto THOSE pages first? not a general forum? I still think you should force/open all club boards so people can post on them. Since they are locked down, they are just dead worlds with random roll calls, somebody clicks, "Like"... whooopie... I want to see a post from some guy who was there last night, having a great time and then this BITCH ripped him off with an air dance... but... alas... the boards are dead, nobody posts anything and the banter is lost along with any real interest from anybody trying to post anything related to such and such club...  

Queens Of The Stone Age - Feel Good Hit Of The Summer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXPUN2z2CE 

this isn't a strip club site for me anymore, not for a long time, it's more of a sports site. All the club pages are dead, there's no reason to check them, the forum is horrible - apologies to anybody who posts on here but... WHAT A BUNCH OF USELESS DRIVEL! Jeeeesus... I like big fannies, no, I like small fannies, no you're wrong, no you're wrong... new thread, I like phat asses, new thread, I like 300 pound monsters, has anybody seen that 300 pound monster that worked at such and such club? 2 days later, new thread, I'm looking for the 300 pound monster that used to work at... on and on... Zbone, the STRIP JOINT site is totally dead... hell, there aren't even links to get entry passes on here anymore, you go to LA Weekly or something like that... you go to Twitter or Facebook pages for clubs to see if they posted roll calls, NOT HERE...

god, it's worse that we thought... the guy shot the girl in the BACK of her neck and the bullet lodged in her jaw. I don't know if that means she was giving him a lap dance when he pulled the trigger or what but... dayum... Hopefully they can look at some video or something before that and see if there were any warning signs that he was crazy, maybe he paced back and forth? there was a guy at DVNH about a month ago that was creeping me out, it was like he was conflicted about the "sin" he was committing or something but... he couldn't stop himself... just this horrible look on his face as he paced around the stage... I was weirded out about him, I couldn't imagine a dancer going back with him to give him a dance... Rialto also had a totally unrelated incident within the 2 weeks before the shooting. "A state correctional officer went to the Spearmint Rhino and brought a knife with him. "He got a lap dance and attempted suicide by slicing his wrist," Fuckin Rialto...

some of these guys are on medications that make them fucking CRAZY. Here's this wonderful pill, it will make your one problem go away, unfortunately, you will also see flying dragons, you left leg will go numb sporadically and you might pass out from time to time... otherwise... there's no side effects! Here! take your pill in good health... and remember, don't overdose! wink, wink, nudge, nudge...

"Police said a customer reportedly wanted a relationship with a dancer. The dancer did not respond to the man's advances. The man then reportedly shot the woman." The guy thought he was Bradley Cooper or something, him... in his 40's... her... in her 20's... Some PL's man... fucking crazy... http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/inland_empire&id=9069755

I don't understand why the blackmailers went with the nuclear option. I get why they called the assistant to the guy, which they thought would scare him, but then, they contacted his boss, effectively destroying any leverage they had over him. I just called your boss, pay me now or... or... what? they're out of threats at that point. Maybe they're just stupid? LOL! Anybody remember, "Ruthless People"? Bill Pullman tries to rob Judge Reinhold who is dressed as Bozo the Clown and is being watched by about 20 police officers. Lt. Bender: GIVE THE BAG TO BOZO, DROP THE GUN, AND PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR.Earl Mott: Who said that?Lt. Walters: This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the earth. Perhaps we should shoot him.Lt. Bender: IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.Earl Mott: Really?

edit: this is a much better quality picture of her:    http://ncwtv.com/nn/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/f204kira3.jpg  This post was edited by Ron Mexico at April 10, 2013 12:54 PM PDT

I can't find the original post about this but it turns out the boyfriend was the blackmailer and I don't understand why he isn't up on extortion charges. Isn't calling someone up, demanding money to NOT do something and then doing it when you don't get paid pretty much the definition of extortion? Anyway... at least some details are out now. The girl worked for, "Friends of Kari Ann" whatever "service" that is and she went by the name of "Kira" and she was working this guy for some good money. He offered her $1,000 for two hours and she replied, "I have another job that is gonna pay me 1000. Convince me to come to you," she wrote. Then her boyfriend, "Ben Free" got involved with the whole blackmail thing. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hearst-exec-scott-sassas-racy-434915

I swear man... some PL's out there are F'ing CRAZY. First of all, what the hell do you have to do to get KICKED OUT of a topless club? Like seriously... your behavior is so bad you can't even function at a topless club? What happens when these people go to the mall or the grocery store and there's a big line? Do they flip out? Cheesus... get a grip... but then, THEN the dude hops in his car and tries to run over the security guys - like it's THEIR fault he was getting kicked out in the first place??? Dayum! I've NEVER been kicked out of a club to begin with and if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't do something STUPID as in: doing something that could involve the police, on the way out... whoever this guy is, the fault is ALL HIS and he needs to get his shit together before he ends up in jail for some stupid bar fight or so forth...    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-strip-club-shooting-20130405,0,5182027.story    A man outside a Commerce topless club attempted to run over security guards with his vehicle early Friday morning but was shot multiple times by the guards, sheriff’s officials said. The exchange occurred just after midnight at Nicola's, a topless club 

oh come on, it's LA! The Valley is loaded with trust fund babies and others who in one way or another receive massive funds from their parents. Who do you think all these car commercials are aimed at? People who actually produce something of value or ego strokers who call themselves "Entrepreneurs" who have some bullshit "business" that produces about $10,000/year in actual income. Meanwhile they're driving some leased car for $500+/month and living in a nice house or condo with no payments... one guy I know has at least 5 credit cards that I know about, like I said, that I KNOW about, every weekend, every friggin weekend he hops on a plane, NY, San Fran, Miami, Seattle, out of the country, stays 2-3 days, the cost of this is OUTRAGEOUS, stays at the best hotels, goes to the hottest restaurants. Well guess what? He maxed out ALL of his cards because obviously his "job" wasn't paying for this lifestlye. What did he do? He went to daddy who paid off the cards and now the cycle has started all over again. But, from the outside, he "appears" to be a successful "entreprenuer", going to Republican fundraisers and so forth... we thought this would end about 10 years ago, nope, it just goes on and on... what a joke, half the hardcore "Republican" nutcases are actually flat broke and depend on daddy to clean up their mess... LA in a nutshell...

funny, most of the links that I posted have been blocked by copyright claims... whatever... fuck'in stupid to banish 20-30 year old songs into obscurity... at least I posted the names so you can look them up...    I haven't posted Boheimian Rhapsody yet!!! Oh... you're in for a treat... LOL!  BTW, this is the SAME GUY in each song, Maynard was in Tool and has screwed around with Puscifer for years. He MAY be insane... I did say "may"... look at how much work he put into Boheimian Rhapsody, you can't just watch it once, you can't! A Bohemian Rhapsody ala PUSCIFERhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjCu0UwDMNM    Puscifer - Cuntry Bonerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJvvxEs1_pE    Puscifer Tiny Monsters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-N1ejjSK6I 

I remember Devine... the black girl, right? There was another girl working at the time who I always got dances from and they were mostly clean, just... she looked so good doing it, I always got dances from her. So... one night, I had gotten a quick 2-1 from Devine and the other girl came by so... back we go... and I told her about Devine and she tells me she would love to do a 2 girl with her. So... that took about 1/2 a second to register and we run back out front to grab Devine and go back to the $60 room - x 2 obviously for the 2nd girl. My favorite dancer got so turned on that by the 2nd song that she lay down on top of me, facing up towards Devine who was on top of her, facing her. I'm on the bottom of this and they were going at it, she starts moaning and next thing I know, her left hand goes down my pants and grabs THE KING! Wow... she had never done anything like that before... needless to say, this was like an electric jolt to me so... what can I say, I'm a dude and a dude can take only so much so... after the first grab, she knew she had totally turned me on so she kept doing it and looking at me and... yeah... I didn't make it through the 3rd song... so... fantastic AND economical... you can't beat random moments like that...

have we hit a new low? Really, WHAT is on this website anymore? I didn't even know where to post this so I picked "Anything Goes"...

is that like... some kind of fucken response to me? What the hell are you attempting to say?   FAT BITCHES. FAT BITCHES. FAT BITCHES. The people on this site LOVES... them some... FAT BITCHES. Taint no denying it, I see girls get "reviews" on here, then you see them at a club and all you can say is... GOD DAYUM! Somebody got it up for that girl?

LOLOLOLOL! PL's turning on each other... AWESOME! What's great is, most of the girls who get reviewed on this site are fat, ugly bitches! Some fuckin 5 foot tall girl with a well developed, 15 years in the making, secretary spread for an ass, probably 3 kids back at the house, a face that would stop a big rig in it's tracks and she's promoted as the greatest thing ever. Oh yeah, EVERYBODY is gett'in mileage from her, it's posted on the boards and nothing happens to her, even though it is fairly obvious club employees are crawling all over this site. It's not like a dancer or one of her flunky's would ever post a fake review about her, no... The girls I get dances with are hardly ever mentioned on these boards Z1 or Z2 and... I like it that way... anyway... CARRY ON!

I don't know how other people use the site, I'm not a heavy user but then again, it doesn't seem like there are many. If it was up to me and it was workable, I'd just have one flat sheet and call it, "The Forum", no "topics" or other scattered distractions, just the newest post on top, all encompassing, all topics on the one page and it wouldn't cut off at the bottom after say, 10 posts, you would be able to scroll down for say, the equivalent of 100 posts until you had to click on "page 2". There's only so many things to talk about, when you really narrow it down. Creating categories just forces people to pick something so you get some posts here, some there... scattered all over the place. Maybe just have 2 major topics: 1. On topic: if it's about the clubs in any way, it goes here, 2. Off topic: if it is not about the clubs, it goes here, INCLUDING "POLLS" as many of us are not "poll" people. You want to see previous posts? You just scroll down. It's easy to quickly scan posts and ignore arguments and so forth.   The club pages are dead. I understand why say, DVNH doesn't post a rollcall on a Friday night, you can't get on Zbone! LOL! so they post it on Twitter... but that aside, I'd say it's safe to say the club boards are pretty much done for, nobody is posting on them, I hardly even look anymore because I know nothing will be on there, clubs are posting roll calls on Facebook and Twitter, so if the default is going to be the "Forum", I'd say you might as well streamline it so it's easier for the average user to hop online and quickly look for whatever they are looking for or make a post or so forth. One, single, active board would encourage more people to post than if it's on a dead board, like the music board where I was the last to post on 12/27 as people don't want to be the one left holding the bag as last poster...   That's just my view, others should post their ideas as well. I'm sure Manual would have some thoughts, he seems to post here as much as anybody.

Newsflash. The only posts I ever see on the forums are the, "Recent Forum Posts", nobody has time to wade through all that shit on the side there, there's about 20 "topics". You see "Last reply" by so and so and... what the hell does that really mean? Sometimes, the only "recent" posts consist of maybe 2 topics being responded to over and over again, response 1. says who?, response 2. says YOU, response 3. why, I oughtaaa... and it's like... ok... nothing here... moving along... I don't know what they call it now but it used to be called "mindshare". It's why Google DESTROYED Yahoo. Google said, you want to do a fuckin search? BAM! There's your search box, no news, no sports, no stock market... If you went to Yahoo, you'd sit there while all this crap you didn't care about loaded in and finally... the search box would appear... It's just too scattered here, hell, I still don't know where to look for something. Here's a general idea, I'm thinking about going to SRVN. WHERE on this site is there any info on SRVN? The club page has jack, you check the forum and... ??? you tell me how to find info in the forum, especially considering how bad some people spell around here... are you supposed to create a new topic every single time? Oh, I changed my mind, I'm going to be in Santa Barbara instead so let me look up info on SR Santa Barbara... now you're back to square one... do you post another new topic? What's the point?

well at least you're posting, Manual. Christ, if it wasn't for you and a few others, there would be absolutely NOTHING on this entire website. I look around and there's NOTHING to post about or respond to, it's all about fat chicks, polls and random musings... hell, all I do now is post on the NBA board... on a website that is SUPPOSED to be about local strip joints... pfft... I still say it is a TERRIBLE mistake to DESTROY the individual message boards for each club. DVNH USED to be an active board, now you can't even fucking post on it but, it was an easy place to get to based on common sense - in other words - you want to talk about DVNH, YOU GO TO THE FUCKIN DVNH BOARD! DUH! Now you go there and see some random and EMPTY postings for roll calls... no commentary, nothing of interest... no comments about the GIRLS THAT WORK THERE, HELLO??? WHY THE FUCK ELSE WOULD SOMEBODY COME TO THIS WEBSITE? Cheesus... This whole site is EMPTY! Dry as the fucking desert... and we're left with this fuckin "Forum" section... which is dead as a doornail... Please keep posting, Manual, I'm afraid if you don't, it will become a true ghostland...

I don't like to goto clubs alone. There's something to be said about shared experiences w/people, just like when you travel. Strip clubs are unique in that they do involve real people, people you can most likely return and see again if the experience is good whereas when you are traveling, it's "I'm never going to see you again"... more of a fleeting experience, made even more fleeting if you are doing it alone, where once again, if you experience it w/someone else, the memory will remain, even years later - look at David Bowie's new video, he's presenting himself as - in his mind - as still living in Germany in the 70's at places and with people that no longer exist... but it's still vivid to him due to the shared experience. I've been lucky with my group. Yeah, there's always someone who won't put up any money, though in fairness, I've gone to clubs and just not seen anyone to my liking that particular night. But it's just like anything else, if you talk about it before you go, how long you plan to stay, do you actually sit together or do you basically split up when you walk in - so what's the point of going together in the first place? or so on... That's the first thing I learned when somebody invited me on a "hike" in the mountains years ago. I showed up figuring it would be an hour or two... those fuckers went at it from fucking 9am to 4pm. I said god almighty! NEVER AGAIN! same thing with mountain biking... oh yeah... let's go mountain biking... 4 hours later... you've got to ask what the plan is first... do you guys bike for an hour or what? Oh noooo... we go 400 miles straight uphill for 3 hours then turn around and come back. Oh... uhhh... I'll have to pass on that...

whoa! Xposed is taking 50%? How did they get all those hotties to come in there? LOL! I think we all get it, you've got different clubs with different fees, taking different % of dancing money. I suppose busier clubs like DVNH would tell girls they have more customers coming in vs. say Rouge or Blue Zebra, etc. so this is why their fee structure is so and so... I think we're talking about 2 different things now. Elena seems to be good at her job. I was referring to the type of girl who foists herself on you and won't go away. Actually, I've had no problem buying drinks for girls who I actually wanted to be there or they may also know that I'll tip them after dances or so forth... but the ones who come up and won't go away are the worst. You tell them 20 different ways - you're just hanging out, you're tired, you just got there, etc. etc. and they simply won't leave... and you're trying everything you can without bluntly stating, "you do nothing for me, I'm not attracted to you at all"... LOL! Those girls are the ones who finally get up in a huff and march off to the dressing room to tell everyone how horrible you are. Meanwhile, you're just sitting there saying, "I, I... just wanted to see some hot girls and some nice boobs..." and now some girl who you have no interest in is fucking FURIOUS with you because she feels like she put all this effort in... and you're just like... I never asked you to put that effort in, in the first place...

- yeah, tipping a girl you don't want a dance with for chatting with you... yeah... here ya go, here's $3 bucks... go the fuck away... I don't even want you to get naked and sit in my lap... just... go away so the other girls know you DO NOT have your hooks into me... yeah... that's going to go over REAL well... I'm sure she's going to be giving me rave reviews in the back... LOL! - The other night, my friend gets up, walks up to the stage, tips the girl at least 4 or 5 bucks in singles, she smiles at him, he goes back to his seat. She never even came over to our side of the room... LOL! It was either directly from the dressing room to the DJ booth or one time to that office by the bar or else, directly to her favorite PL who never seemed to get dances, but she'd sit there with him for extended periods, they'd call a special, she'd go up onstage then disappear immediately, never with the guy she had been sitting with...

Mac DeMarco - Ode to Viceroy   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bfTTeZOrs4     

things are changing so fast, the next thing to go might be porn in hotel rooms. I kept hearing people complain about their Slingbox units so I picked up a cheap Vulkano "Flow" off Amazon and then bought the app for $12 bucks and put it on my Kindle Fire HD. This thing, the Vulkano, is FABULOUS! I plugged it directly into my Time Warner cable box which is a Motorolla using component cables, the damn thing connected w/my wireless router, next thing I know, I can do everything I want with my cable box, REMOTELY. Change channels, record, playback, use the menu to get to recorded shows... fast forward even, though that takes a little bit of skill and timing... but, amazing... all on my Kindle. I've tried it at other people's houses using their internet connections, I haven't tried it from a hotel yet but but the Kindle has a small usb out, so you pick up a cord that turns the other end into an HDMI and... walla... you plug that into the back of any tv - with an HDMI outlet and what's playing on my Kindle is now playing on the tv... So... gee, I'm sitting in a hotel room and I want to watch a movie but I don't want to pay for it... OR, let's say I want to see the Laker game, which I recorded earlier... well... turn on my Kindle, get my internet connection, then turn on the Vulkano app and... I'm in... and no payments to the hotel for programming...

I define "Porn Stars" as being older, 30+, as that era passed at least 5 years ago. Nobody buys DVD's or even Blu Ray anymore. Now it's all internet, which I define as, "Cam Girls", like Brooke Skye, http://www.brookeskye.com/ etc. PS, I don't know what she looks like nowadays but that girl had tits that pointed straight to the sky, straight... to the SKYE, I tell you!!! anyway... The girls doing porn who are under 30 nowadays all seem to be online - which is smart, but I wouldn't define them as Porn Stars. So I'm curious, when you hear somebody say, "Porn Star" do you assume she's older? I hear Porn Star and I figure she's got to be AT LEAST in her 30's, more likely in her 40's.  

well, it's great you guys are getting a stripper for him but perhaps? you might want to ask him what he wants. One of my friends, we go to a strip club and we have completely opposite tastes, which works out great, actually, but he's elbowing me, "you see that over there"? and I'm looking, saying, "what? THAT???" and then I'm eyeballing a girl and he's like... that? seriously??? and I'm like, oh yeah... LOL! So perhaps you favor porn stars but the actual bachelor may favor girls like that picture of "Tiny Thong Lovers" under the "Groups" section above. I'd MUCH rather have that than some saggy ass old "Porn Star". Plus, porn stars will most likely charge you more. Actually, now that I think about it, instead of hiring a stripper, just go to the Spearmint Rhino in Van Nuys or LA. Don't say a word to anyone about it being a bachelor party, what's the point besides having to reach in your wallets for more cash? Then just let him pick a girl or - let's say... TWO GIRLS. Topless would be $20 x 2/dance, nude would be $40 x 2/dance (much more costly, I'd recommend topless to start), get, say 3 dances for him, if it's good, then he can do a VIP or, if he's like me, usually you become more focused on one girl so then it's only $120 + tip for the VIP, so that's $120 for 3 topless + say $120 for the VIP = $240 + say $30 in tips = $270 which is still less than the stripper would cost because you do realize, the INITIAL fee is just for her to show up, then they expect every guy to tip everytime she does something which adds up fast, plus, add in the fact that he got to choose the girls he wanted to get dances with so that would be 3 topless w/2 girls at the same time and then 3 songs full nude with one of them.

I guess another question would be - how old are you guys? "Porn Star" usually implies some girl that's over 30, sometimes WAYYYY over 30. I'm just say'in... if your friend is in his 20's and you're just looking for a good time, not like, actual sex or anything, just stupid fun, I'd drop the "Porn Star" thing and go for one or two young'uns... for that, unless you're really creepy, just go to a busy club and quietly ask around - ask girls who's looks you like, btw... LOL! If you ask the right way, they won't be offended and if they don't do it, I'M SURE they will know of some other girls who do because that's all these girls do is talk, talk, talk, talk...

I disagree on the idea of VIP being anywhere near the same level as DVNH. Spawn has put that place on the map but they just don't have the horses, so to speak... DVNH can have 50 or more girls working during a busy period and you can usually at least see about 2 or 3 that close to a home run in terms of looks (I'm picky) and another maybe 5+ that, depending on personality could be good. SRVN trucks in European hotties and though off and on, they are usually "on" so you'll see a knockout at some point. Xposed gets no love on zbone but I've been there a number of times and driven by at night and the parking lot at the post office is full and they have, what I would rank, as better quality girls than VIP. BZ and Rouge, you are sacrificing looks for mileage, who's kidding who? LOL! VIP it seems you are also sacrificing looks but, at least for me, it's actually kinda pricey as it makes no sense to do anything other than the $50, 10 minute thing so, if you get a bad one - which seems to be my luck there for about... oh, the last year or so... that's $50 out the window, then you try someone else and I don't know about other people's experiences there but I haven't really been getting very good dances there, so there's $100+ bucks out the window and it makes you gun shy from trying anyone else. I've had several "nude" dances there where the girl will move in such a way, she might as well be wearing a jumpsuit or something, many don't even get totally nude, they just push clothing this way or that and sit sideways so you are looking at their sides instead of the front or back. So they don't have the best lookers or great lapdances so... ??? VIP or DVNH? Not even close...

think "Heathers"... and that had Shannen Doherty no less... and yeah, the bottles of Perrier in the bag proved it! So... the girls of SRVN are the "Heathers" and the ones at the other clubs are the... less popular girls that the Heathers mock and run circles around... basically saying, "winning", while selling lapdances to high income regulars while the girls at the other clubs struggle to sell lapdances to 300 pound, depressed 40 year olds wearing bathing suits with black socks and dress shoes in 40 degree weather... yeah... pretty much just like in real life... LOL!  

there's not much to say, it really depends on which girls are working, what time you go, etc. I was there on a Friday night and it was NOT busy... but! there were still a couple of hotties. Think of it this way, SRVN is the upscale club in the chain, so you get the more intelligent girls, some with fakies, some with naturals, most will give you a good dance. Rouge and Blue Zebra, their sister clubs, actually both have better locations (remote) but the quality of the girls isn't up to SRVN standards, however, for mileage hounds, these would be the better places to go as you simply use your internal expertise to figure out what girls are going to give YOU, not the guy next to you but YOU a better dance. The girls at these clubs are usually more tatted up or bigger/heavier or not as pretty as the ones at the main SRVN location. That's really about it, you can juggle around different prices but in the end, they come out about the same. SRVN is usually much busier than the other 2 clubs though. Sometimes you can walk into Rouge and there's only a couple of guys there so there's a lot more pressure from girls trying to get a dance. At SRVN, a girl gets even a whiff of the idea you're not buying, and she bolts without a 2nd thought. I greatly appreciate that at times...

bor-ing... zzzz... what's so great about what gets posted in the forums now? Polls? Guys who like 300 pound dancers? At least before, the club pages were active, now it's the same 10 people posting IN THE FORUM and the club pages are borderline USELESS. Even the clubs see no point in posting roll calls since their club boards are dead and there's no reason for anyone to use them. Besides a couple of high volume users, who else is getting much out of this site anymore? Hell, the only thing I really post about anymore is the NBA... LOL! seriously... THAT is the only reason I even log in anymore, why else would I log in? What else is there on this site for me, SOMEBODY WHO GOES TO STRIP CLUBS? As far as I can tell, there's nothing here, NOTHING. Rollcalls are now posted by clubs on Twitter and Facebook, free entry coupons are on LA Weekly or club websites, that stuff is NOT on here so... ??? seriously, what's so "great" about Z2?

or maybe... some dancers are just NUTS!??? LOL! Sometimes I just want to throw my hands in the air. I get approached by a dancer I'm not attracted to, absolutley no connection of any kind and she keeps pushing for a dance and finally I'll say, whatever the excuse is, I'm just hanging out or maybe later or whatever (in other words, I'M NOT INTERESTED) and they leave in a huff and then they go back and tell the other girls to avoid the cheap guy who wouldn't get a dance with her... and I know this because sometimes, later on, girls will slip up and say, "oh, I thought you weren't getting any dances tonight" or something along those lines and I'm like... ok??? where did you pick that up? Generally, the worst ones are the ones who bumrush you as soon as you enter the club. They also seem to be the ones who know all the other girls, know EVERYTHING that is going on and are the walking TMZ of that particular club. The problem is... the other girls, WHO YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, actually listen to these idiots and stay away. ARRRGH! and I'm sitting there with money in my pocket, being approached ONLY by girls I'm not interested in because of the TMZ bumrush girl who froze me out at the beginning and guess who will approach me once again later on? The TMZ girl... the one who told the other girls to avoid me in the first place... pfft...

here's their twitter... don't ask me... ??? I have no idea on the thought process or why they post one day and not another, it's a total magic 8 ball when you check in:   http://twitter.com/RHINOVN    I should add, "Lana" is the Asian chick from Rouge that HAD nice tits and then got gigantic implants. When I saw them, I wanted to say WTF? no - seriously... WTF??? but... alas, I didn't, so... she has no idea why I don't get dances from her anymore... This post was edited by Ron Mexico at November 27, 2012 7:29 PM PST

if you're willing to drive a few extra miles, Xposed has been surprisingly good lately, you just exit on Canoga and shoot up to Roscoe. I have no idea about dayshift but at night, there's been some damn good ones with natural titties... ahhhhh... As for SRVN, they're having some special event on Saturday night so I'm not sure you could even get in without an invite card - or else they'll hit you for some ridiculous entry fee - it's $20 normally so it might be $40 or more for that event. I bet you'd like Annaleah and certainly Milan, Taylor might be even better for girls, I dunno, she's an interesting one to talk to. Some of the other names escape me but usually, SRVN has at least ONE knockout for every person's type.

LOL! I was going to say, guess you went to DVNH then I saw the last line where you mention DVNH... I posted about a week or so ago to stay away from there for at least a month. I got some HORRIBLE dances, just absolutely LAME so, intrigued, I started asking where all the girls were from and it was from all the other Deja Vu's, LA, Union Station, Hollywood... basically, ALL OF THE GIRLS that other guys had figured out were TERRIBLE all - ALL OF THEM! the FAILURES decided to descend on DVNH and give us lame lapdances until we all figured out they were terrible and the jig would be up and it would be time to move on... no wonder they stopped posting roll calls and blocked people from posting on their site page here, they're trying to keep that shit on the down low...

gotta say, I'm w/LouAss on this one. These performers have no real power, if they don't go along w/something, most likely it will be their last project as word will get around that they are "difficult". The real "protection" is for the performers themselves. As far as porn supposedly leaving the area... wake up... with the internet, it doesn't matter where anybody is anymore. You can have a house full of girls with a camera in every room in Billings, Montana, Miami, FL, or Russia or China or South America or anywhere you can connect to the internet. Who actually buys porn anymore besides Tards? Tards LOVE porn stars, I've never seen anything like it. Want to see a porn star fan? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CArWivYt208 LOL! The porn industry needs to adapt and move towards real storytelling with fewer sex scenes to survive. 99% of the "stories" are so ridiculous and then they are grinding away for 30 minutes straight... if you can sit through that without fastforwarding... you're seriously hardcore...

"Asians"??? Man, that's like getting a whiff of a fresh cup of coffee... I IMMEDIATELY clicked on the link for this post but... nope, the mystery of the missing Asians continues... I don't get it, you have clubs like the Spearmint Rhino sneaking in Eastern European and Russian hotties through student visas - students... yeah... riiiiight... but there are no clubs out here who hustle in hot Japanese women. You would think w/that nuclear facility having a meltdown some super hot Japanese women could be hidden in a container carrying some Toyotas across the ocean... JEEZ! Do I have to think of everything!!! LOL! I've seen "Taken", I know how the world works, where are these gangs taking these women? Why aren't they bringing them to the San Fernando Valley? C'mon! We've got a Galleria, the Lakers, good, warm, non-nuclear weather... you're telling me these guys can't sell THAT to a few hot Asian girls?

seeing the Deja Vu Main ST topic, this is another topic you could get into sometime - angry dancers. I've encountered quite a few recently. One club this UGLY chick comes up to me and I mean UGLY and I said I'm just hanging out and she gets PISSED and said all she wanted to do was sit down and talk to me. Well fuck... I couldn't say she was ugly, I had no intention of ever getting a dance from her and I sure as hell wasn't going to buy her a drink to sit and talk with me so I was just said, whatever... Well, about an hour later - and this is after I've done some dances with other girls, another girl does the same thing and I'm like... I'm just hanging out... and she gets all PISSED and starts asking if I like little boys... I'm just like... I can't get dances with everyone... I should have said, "it's a small list, honey, and you AIN'T on it!" but of course, that would have driven her batshit crazy... probably coked out of her mind to begin with...    

I just figured I was banned for something... LOL!

unfortunately, the post by Lost points out a fatal flaw in the new version of zbone. Let's say you do want to talk about a club. WHERE do you do that? Wouldn't most people try to comment about a club on the club board? What % of people are going to go to a general forum to comment on a specific club? I greatly dislike the general forum setup, it's hard to get a grasp on what is active or not so you end up ONLY seeing the "recent forum posts" on the bottom right hand side, I don't ever look over the left hand side, it's just gibberish. Obviously, the club employees aren't reading the forums, all they do is make a post - in the wrong place most of the time. Hey, all they care about is their club and... hey, nothing is posted there so... what's for them to see? I wanted to comment on how horrible the dancers were at DVNH, well guess what? YOU CAN'T POST ON THE DVNH BOARD, so it went on the forums section and as soon as it drops off that "recent forum posts" section, IT'S GONE, and club employees never saw it and never will... so, what are clubs to make of zbone? If you don't log in and goto the home page or the forums section it's a totally dead world, like nobody is here...

" Do you have names so we can avoid them"? Nope. The place was dead, it would be too easy to figure out who I am. I just want to go to these places in peace, do my thing, maybe post about things once in awhile but that was simply atrocious... Basically, if a girl says she's from Union Station or any other DV in LA, it probably means they just got fired because all the PL's from those clubs figured out they gave crappy dances and now they have ALL headed over to DVNH to run the same, "tease" type dance scam to make PL's think the dances will get better if they get more. Well... of course, it wasn't go'in to get any better... so, until these girls get blown out and they start bringing in better girls, I'd just say avoid this place completely for at least a month or two... it was that bad... no wonder roll calls have dropped off a cliff.

now I know why DVNH isn't posting night roll calls. It's because they've got a collection of the worst lapdancers in history coming in from other Deja Vu's around town. The first one looked great, we go back and she ***starts*** to sit down, with her back to me and grind - right? RIIIIGGGHT? well instead, she starts moving her ass, keeping it 1/2 inch away, not even touching or barely grazing my lap... I'm just like... WTF is this??? The next girl, again, looks great, but she just wants to sit in my lap and talk. Again, I'm like... WTF? Do guys come in and get these type of dances? So now, I'm asking every girl and they're all coming from DV Union Station or LA or whatever other Deja Vu is in the LA area... I guess business sucks at those places so now THE WORST dancers are running over to DVNH. So now... we're getting the WORST of the WORST at DVNH, the ones the other guys figured out were TERRIBLE and now they've ALL landed on our doorstep... I'm taking a break from DVNH for a looooog while... that was fuckin TERRIBLE!

whoa! Mila Kunis lookalike... I went rushing back to DVNH because somebody thought Vee might have returned but alas... I guess not... nobody has seen her... so it goes...

there's lots of "Jedi's" around but the worst thing you could do nowadays is post their name on here. Zbone 2 appears to be the reverse of Zbone 1. Zbone 1, you say a girl is great, guys go down and see her. Zbone 2, you say a girl is great, managment sees the post and the girl gets called in the office... or so it seems... sometimes, with Zbone 2, I wonder if there are more "managers" and club employees posting here than PL's... The death of posting on individual club boards has kinda killed Zbone for me. Yeah, we have the forums... yeah... not a whole lot of usable stuff on there... really, just not much on Zbone, that I can't figure out why any new PL would join, I don't think I would, if I had just stumbled across the site...

is business that bad? roll calls have dropped off a cliff, no Friday or Saturday roll calls? or night roll calls in general. They've already killed their board since they disabled the ability to comment on it. Once they were the most popular board and now there's no reason to go to it???

Alicia was fired for fighting? LOL! I knew I liked her for a reason... Wow, if Vee's back, maybe I'll go back and check that out... thank you very much for posting that!

both of them seemed to drop off the face of the earth. Just curious if anyone has seen them anywhere else. thx. 

actually, I went to the website, I was almost wondering if they had taken over the Bodyshop location but I guess not. Wonder how they handle the parking situation down there, that area is freaking HORRIBLE for visitors. The parking lots stick it to people as hard as they can because they know... you ain't never going back...

sunset is around 6:45 currently, I'd suggest anyone who goes down to Tijuana who doesn't have a good place to hide, get the fuck outta there by 5pm minimum... Ron Mexico was the nom de plume - as far as signing into hotels... of Michael Vick, I thought you'd know that, with all your betting... LOL!