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• Manual

  

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  March 27, 2012 3:41 PM PDT

  This has got to be the thread with the longest posts of Z1 and Z2.
• DanthaMan

  

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  March 27, 2012 5:16 PM PDT

  @Sax I get where you're coming from and honestly, that whole undercover cop thing didn't cross my mind and maybe that has something to it since I am a bit stocky and usually have short hair. Thanks to everyone that has given their views on this topic and I will take the advice given to me on here and see if the results differ. I will check out VIP showgirls in the valley this week and maybe a spot in the IE next week. I apologize for the long posts and look forward to sharing other stories and reading about other topics with you guys
• Deleted Member

  
   

  March 27, 2012 5:22 PM PDT

  Good thread sir... Have fun at VIP, look for Dani, Maddux, Hazel, Cassandra, Kristie, Kyla, Savanah, Harper and a few more. You probably at times will wa.nt to be ignored Unless you have VERY deep pockets Ten dollar topless dances cant be beat
  Email Spawn and he will probably be able to have a pass waiting for you
  Thanks folks for something to read
• DanthaMan

  

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  March 27, 2012 5:26 PM PDT

  LOL thanks @Benn, I do for sure want to get some dances from Cassandra... based on her profile, she seems like my kind of girl and I really like her attitude so I look forward to the trip. Again I want to thank @Lopaw @LouAss @Sax @Manual @Jaytee @StickyIcky and everyone else on their tidbits. I appreciate every view and piece of advice I can get. Gracias
• Deleted Member

  
   

  March 27, 2012 11:03 PM PDT

  Dan.. I need to tell you a secret. You can go to VIP wearing a wife beater, a suit and tie, a firemans uniform or a clown suit, but DONT expect cASSandra to walk up to you and ask for a dance without doing something to get her attention. She is really nice, but not that aggressive in the "wana dance " department. Dont take it personal. Actually I think you may have to ASSk her... maybe from the tip rail ,in between the butt quivers. If you do wear the clown suit, honk your horn.
• knottyboi

  

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  March 27, 2012 11:45 PM PDT

  @SAX you think white people are paranoid because they think they are being attacked. Well here is my experience with reverse discrimination. Friends of mine from high school signed up to take the LA firefighter exam as soon as they were eligble. I waited a little longer.In between The City passed a policy that minorities would get priority due to a consent decree. So minorities& women got extra points and got to take the test ahead of me. The consent decree was rescinded as it was ruled unconstituitional. However the City did not change their testing policy and still gave preference on race I waited the maximum time(I think it was between 7 & 10 years ) and was never allowed to test. I was offered a chance to keep my current spot by signing up again but was informed i was only 6 months from reaching the maximum age limit for new recruits, so most likely i would not be eliglble to take the test. Is the fact that i had hundreds of women & minorities "jump the line" and get ahead of me in a move since ruled illegal as reverse discrimination just my "paranoia" i doubt it since the courts say otherwise.
  
• Sax

  

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  March 28, 2012 8:01 AM PDT

  Knottyboi, I'm sorry to hear of your situation, and I think it truly sucks. The City made a bad decision in its attempt to correct several decades (centuries?) in which minorities were discriminated against, or as you'd say, "held back as less qualified white candidates got to 'jump' the line." The mistake was, they attempted to fix a wrong with a wrong: You don't help one group by holding back another. However, this hardly constitutes an "attack" - it is a case of bureaucrats trying to fix things in a way that they don't think through. The courts attempted to correct it, but just as letting unqualified minority candidate jump the line doesn't make up for two centuries of discrimination, fixing the City's bad decsions doesn't make up for the time you lost. I would recommend you tell the City you want 40 acres and a mule, but I think you will find they are deaf to those requests. When it comes to fixing racism on all sides, government may be the only solution, but they suck at it most of the time. Until we all learn to love each other blind to each other's skin color or language, racism will always be with us, hence, all solutions will be ineffectual. Saying that "white people are under attack" because the goverment is attempting to reconcile 200 years of stupid policies and behavior just adds to the problem.
• knottyboi

  

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  March 28, 2012 10:52 AM PDT

  I appreciate your concern, i knew when i signed up i had a snowballs chance to actually get a chance so i moved on long ago. I appreciate the fact that you know that you cannot right a wrong with another wrong. Ask yourself this, any idiot knows this, and yet they tried it. Why? You used the term of paranoia, when peoples freedoms and rights are jeopordized i do not believe that saying you are being attacked is an exaggeration. When someone does something so stupid you have to ask yourself why?
  I will answer, the City knew they could deny white peoples rights and get away with it for a short period of time,Long enough that if they made the most of it they could raise their minority numbers high enough to satisfy others. Even though they took away the rights of people like me to pursue my job.
• knottyboi

  

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  March 28, 2012 11:00 AM PDT

  Also you mention unquallified white candidates. You cannot rewrite history. Simple. None of the minority candidates that applied when i did were skipped over. So a level playing field would not have hurt them. Here is something else you probably do not know. As most women failed the physical firefighter test. The test was comprimised to allow them to pass. Also the test used to be scored on points, so if you were very good you did not have to be as good at the written or vice versa. In addition to reducing the physical standards they made the test pass fail. So many male minorities were comprimised for the sake of women, as they are today currently.
• knottyboi

  

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  March 28, 2012 11:05 AM PDT

  IN addition women candidates get a substantial financial stipend so they can quit there current job or reduce hours to train for the test. ANY WOMAN can request financial aid from the City by merely expressing a desire to become a fire fighter.They even pay for a free gym membership in addition to the stipend. I suggest ALL strippers make some extra money by applying for firefighter. Even if you fail the test they will continue to pay so you can pass the test eventually. Not real smart for a city that is broke. Again peoples rights are comprimised for another group. When you are a white male you pay for services that you can never receive. That is not being treated equally under the Constituition, so that is an attack on your rights. simple. Everyone gets the same opportunity, if you comprimise one groups chance you are attacking them.
• jaytee669

  

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  March 28, 2012 11:09 AM PDT

  When women still weren't strong enough to fulfill some of the tasks (like carrying someone) the city responded that they should use 2 women for the task of one man. Great thinking.
• Sax

  

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  March 28, 2012 11:53 AM PDT

  I love this discussion, and I'm impressed at how civil it has remained, but at this point, it is so far off-topic with regards to strip clubs that I am going to respectfully withdraw now from this thread.
  
  Let's all go get a lap dance from a girl from a different race every day and share the love. Let's bring the rainbow party to the rainbow coalition. I want some contrast in my lap, baby!
  
  It's all good.
• senior caliente

  

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  March 28, 2012 12:37 PM PDT

  Sax said:
   Let's all go get a lap dance from a girl from a different race every day and share the love. Let's bring the rainbow party to the rainbow coalition. I want some contrast in my lap, baby! It's all good.

   

   

   

  YES!!!!

• Aclubdj2

  

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  July 2, 2012 1:37 AM PDT

  If you go to a strip club and it sucks - leave. Go to another one. If a girl doesn't want you, fuck it- there's soooooo many others / and you can BUY their time and their attention. It's that simple. If that doesn't work - come see me at the ViP and I'll introduce you to some strippers that will pretend to like your brown ass. I know because they love my brown ass. : ) personal hygene is important- As long as you smell ok and you aren't fucken crazy- the girls I work with are pretty laid back- that's why I work there. This year is my 15th year in the strip club business- of ALL the clubs I have ever dj-ed or managed - ViP is the most chill - girls and staff. It's worth the drive to have a great time. Bring cash or we have an ATM next to the bar. : )
• Kleo

  

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  July 3, 2012 4:21 PM PDT

  Aclubdj2 said:
  If you go to a strip club and it sucks - leave. Go to another one. If a girl doesn't want you, fuck it- there's soooooo many others / and you can BUY their time and their attention. It's that simple. If that doesn't work - come see me at the ViP and I'll introduce you to some strippers that will pretend to like your brown ass. I know because they love my brown ass. : ) personal hygene is important- As long as you smell ok and you aren't fucken crazy- the girls I work with are pretty laid back- that's why I work there. This year is my 15th year in the strip club business- of ALL the clubs I have ever dj-ed or managed - ViP is the most chill - girls and staff. It's worth the drive to have a great time. Bring cash or we have an ATM next to the bar. : )

  
  Speak the truth! (: VIP is the best.

• Willywad

  

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  July 5, 2012 9:24 PM PDT

  Sax said:
  Let's all go get a lap dance from a girl from a different race every day and share the love. Let's bring the rainbow party to the rainbow coalition. I want some contrast in my lap, baby! It's all good.

  
  This is one of the main reasons I wander from club to club. I like the diversity. As long as the tits aren't fake, I'll get a dance from any dancer, no matter of build, beauty, or race. It would suck to have strippers walk past and ignore me because of my race though. Fuck those ignorant bitches.
• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 17, 2012 9:13 PM PDT

  WTF??? I get alot of racism shown towards me as a dancer too. It goes both ways. But thank God not everyone is a racist pig. Im not. I treat people well if they are good people.
• lopaw

  

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  July 17, 2012 9:57 PM PDT

  Willywad said:
  

  It would suck to have strippers walk past and ignore me because of my race though. Fuck those ignorant bitches.

  Word.

  Add gender, size, handicap, etc to that list, too.

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 18, 2012 2:10 AM PDT

  Read most posts, all insightful and similar. Top three favs are at no. 3 is ZBone with 'no wack air dance please', at no. 2 is Sticky with 'dating women of all races and cultural backgrounds that made me whom I am today and greater appreciation towards what this world has to offer' (very profound bro), and at no.1 is cASSandra with 'latino boyfriends', oh yea!!!
  
  Marry me cASS or at least how about dance ($1 for 5 dances, and do you take Paypal?)
• DanthaMan

  

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  July 20, 2012 1:11 PM PDT

  Geneva said:
  WTF??? I get alot of racism shown towards me as a dancer too. It goes both ways. But thank God not everyone is a racist pig. Im not. I treat people well if they are good people.

  Wow? Really? That's incredibly hard to believe. specially since I've never met a white woman in my life who has ever been rejected for anything based on her race. If anything, white women seem to have the easiest at all clubs when it comes to business. I don't know you nor have I ever been to the club you work at but my opinions are based on previous visits to numerous strip clubs in various areas. I'm surprised this topic is still up since I created it. I've taken a break from clubs but I can tell you, the last time I went to a club, it happened again and I ended up saving my money. The lady was indeed white and she was in her mid to late 30s... She went up to every older white gentlemen there and the few black guys there but didn't bother to approach me. I tipped the girl, was corteous but still the same outcome. I might go check out other clubs to continue this social expirement and keep you guys updated. 

• Mryeahbuddy

  

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  September 2, 2012 2:54 PM PDT

  I just wanted to chime in on your post. I think it's funny u named Jessica Lynn. She's actually one of the more cooler dancers there. I see her talk to all types of guys including Hispanics. I frequent there alot. And sum of her best customers are Hispanic. Maybe she was having a bad day or there was something she didn't like about u. But as far as racism in the club it happens to every1. I go to plenty of clubs where girls don't speak to me bcuz I'm black and u know what? They don't get my money. Oh well their loss. :-). I'm just defending someone who I feel was falsely. All Hispanic men on Zbone. JESSICA LYNN IS FAR FROM RACIST. If you have $$ she will gladly take it. I'm sure of it