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Date: 5/19/2008 8:15am Whois Name: freemason Z-VIP Member (212)
Delete Subject: My visit to "The Show"
..was stupendous. I did see Sammy and he is a great bartender. So is Melody, the girl that is on before him. I didn't care too much for the servers/waitresses though. I saw Marco from Pleasures there and he instantly recognized me. I didn't re-collect to many of the girls. Mind you, I had only been to Pleasures a handful of times. And that is only because my girlfriend whom I've been with for two years lives in Pasadena. I was very curious about this place. Apparently, its been around for decades but its current incarnation started in late January. At the risk at sounding a little unfair or unjust, the place is kinda like a mini Plan B. The set up is a little different. You have a nice bar, a nice dinning area, then you also have what looks to be some sort of banquet room and also a stage that you would expect to see at a regular bar that has bands. (They do actually have bands that play there.) Then, of to your left, you have the "dancer" area with tables and the stage with a pole. All under one roof. I like the set up. You can start in one room and continue on to the next. It was rather slow for a Saturday night. At least that what Lucy told me, an ex from Pleasures. Pale skin and jet black hair with matching dress. She was with Eddie the whole night and danced once on stage. Saw only 3 other girls. The one that striked me was Baby. Beautiful blonde Russian girl. I guess the only odd thing there was that the people working there outnumbered the customers. It seemed that there were alot of dudes that either worked security/manager/DJ/host or were friends of these. Nonetheless, I liked the vibe. This place shows promise. The other two girls I saw there were very good looking and as in previously mentioned posts, the girls seem to spend most of the night with one customer. Its almost, dare I say it, like a hostess club. Very similar to a "quasi" date if you will. The bloke buys her drinks, dinner and dances eventually and the girl is just his "companion" for most of the evening. I wonder how it is when the bands play there. Do the girls dance with you to the music? Still a lot of un-answered questions that I want to find out. Regarardless, the place also boasts an incredible menu. Even though I didn't eat, the food looked magnificent. I guess the only other big question is "how are the dances" becasue they do have $10 dances. You heard me right. Bikini dances in a private area. they didn't charge to go to the dancer area and while I was there, I didn't see anybody get dances. The place is easy to find. Just shoot down Colorado and pass Rosemead. You will see it on your right hand side. I think valet starts at 9PM. I got there at 8PM and parked on the street right in front. Very un-assuming place. I guess thats the draw. You don't expect it to be like it is. Will definetly be back. I hope those of you that are on here that go, please post. Post soon lads...cheers!

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Date: 5/11/2008 2:45am Whois Name: stripclubguy69 (5)
Delete Subject: bartender
Hey has anyone been served by the bartender, "SAMMY" at the show, man as employee's go he is a character but in a good way. If you guys want good girls to dance with he can point you all the hotties. He also pours good drinks. He also knows which girls give the best dances. when you go in the bouncers all know him as "the silverback", I guess thats his bartender code name Ha ha ha funny stuff. Any way thats all for now.

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Date: 5/9/2008 6:18pm Whois Name: MastaPJ (64)
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The review below reminds of something else that I never mentioned before - the food. The food here is amazing. It used to be a restaurant before and they kept all of the same staff on after the transition. They have a room for fine dining, such as Prime Rib, Salmon, Filet Mignon, Pasta and more, and they serve appetizers out in the main room and dance area. This is especially nice because you can come in early and have dinner and then hang around and have a couple drinks and talk to some of the girls, or you can even invite one of the girls to eat with you. This is just one more reason that I would recommend this club to anyone in this area who wants to get a couple drinks and hang out with some hot women...

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Date: 5/9/2008 1:20pm Whois Name: stripclubguy69 (4)
Delete Subject: went again
so was at the "show" last night, it was a cool night, not terrible busy but some good girls there. I did try the food prime rib was f'n great and pretty thrifty deal too. But any way about the important stuff, Saw gianna in the house (damn she is hot) but the wait list was too long couldnt get time whith her. Oh they have a ATM now, fee not so bad, cheaper then other clubs. Finally was able to get some dances with Star (this is good stuff). She had a friend Jada (also really good stuff). Got a hour with both, had a blast they know what they are doing. In all I can see things picking up, hope to get back this weekend maybe the german girls will be in the house. Oh also went by Cacoons, does any one know if they have drink min now there, the bartender kept getting mad saying I had to buy more drinks or something cause the owner was watching the camera's I was like screw this im out, ????? oh well maybe she was just trying to get more tip.........

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Date: 5/6/2008 9:43pm Whois Name: DROCK (52)
Delete Subject: Cool Place
Stopped by the other night as well. I had a good time. It was nice to see the ole gang again from Pleasures, especially the ladies.....Lovely, London, Lacey, Peaches (now a waitress) and some others whom's name I cannot recall.

I like the set-up of the "The Show", I like that old school look and feel of this place. I hope this place sticks around.

Hope to see some more of the other Pleasures dancers show up as well, I plan on stopping by this week.

All the best to this new place. Peace!

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Date: 5/6/2008 10:36am Whois Name: chefboy (42)
Delete Subject: Thanks MastaPJ
Thanks for the response. I agree with you. And, I didn't see it as an issue, or a barrier, but more as just an interesting contributor to the vibe I felt that night.

Bottom line: this place is OFF THE HOOK, just LIKE VEGAS. Oh wait, that's another club.

But, seriously, I hope they use some of their new revenue to spruce things up a bit. All our old dancer friends, plus a better location than "lower-sorta-Arcadia", AND some nicer digs would make for a great place to visit.

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Date: 5/5/2008 10:32pm Whois Name: MastaPJ (63)
Delete Subject: Girls Drinking
Chefboy, I was actually there on Friday and was one of the people that Lovely was sitting with before you went to get your dances from her. I think the main reason why most of the girls are mostly just hanging around with one or two guys is because this place is fairly new and relatively unknown. Therefore, most of the customers that are in there right now are either people who read about the place on here, or more likely customers of the girls that they called in there to try and make money (it is a business after all). Give it some time for the place to get more popular like Pleasures and I'm sure it won't be such an issue...

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Date: 5/5/2008 9:46am Whois Name: chefboy (41)
Delete Subject: Trip report - Fri May 2nd
As promised, I stopped by Papa Joe's on Friday. Here is what I found:

Driving by this place shows no hint of what lays inside. Got there around 8:30, and walking up to the entrance I glanced to my right and saw ... a room full of people eating dinner. So, the rumors were not true, I think. But, I was comitted at this point. I spied the bar inside and figured that I'd at least have a drink. Making a beeline to the bar, I started past a dude who mumbled something. I thought maybe he said "welcome to the club", or "come inside to see the chicks", but when I asked him to repeat, he muttered only "$5 cover". Well, I figured that was a good sign - and paid the $5.

Once inside, I really thought I was just in a bar. The bar stools were full of people (mostly couples), and a few of the tables in the bar area were similarly occupied. Could have been any cocktail lounge at happy hour. Some of the women "patrons" looked familar, however, so I kept looking. To my left, through a wide curtained door, was another room. Inside was a stage some chairs around the stage, a few tables and a couch or two. Ah ha! It really is a strip club!

I went back into the bar to settle in and order. Watched a couple of stage dances, which were OK (bikini), but the girls were pretty much coupled up - they danced then went immediately back to the bar or table they were sitting at. Some of the girls were in small groups, drinking or eating.

I recognized several of the girls including Tia, Lovely, Robin, and London. Lovely finally broke free and after a stage dance offered me a lap. My research was not yet complete, so I agreed. She led me through the bar, past the restrooms and down a neon-lit hallway to yet another room. Pretty much old dining booths all around the perimeter with a "podium" up front for the bouncers. About half-way through the first dance I realized that Lovely had lost none of her enthusiasm, and decided to try out a half-hour. I was not dissapointed. Lots of bouncers walking through, but not too much hassle. Dance charges are pretty much like Pleasures used to be.

I have mixed feelings on this one. The inside of the "club" is disjointed, old and, for the most part, kind of cheap (the chairs at the stage are a joke). The vibe (and the personnel) is much like Pleasures - a plus.

Something I don't understand: how do the dancers make money in a place like this? Pleasures was always kind of a "bar with chicks you could lap with". But, girls were generally floating around - you could get a dance. When Cocoon started to become "Pleasures II", I noticed more of the girls sitting and drinking with the patrons - less dancing, more drinking. Papa Joe's appeared even more like that. For example, London never left the side of one customer. Never danced. The dance room was pretty much empty while I was there. How does this work?

Well, I'll go back to see more of my Pleasures favs.
Club 2 Dancers 3.5 Attitude 3 Nasty Factor 2.5

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Date: 5/5/2008 5:04am Whois Name: MastaPJ (61)
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As for girls that used to work at Pleasures that are now working at The Show at Papa Joe's, I have seen the following girls during my various visits to the club: Devon, Wilder, Tia, Mila, Ruby, LeeLee, Peaches (she is now waitressing), Lovely, London, Tera, and many others that I'm sure I am forgetting. If you used to like a girl that worked at Pleasures, then chances are that she is working at this club.

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Date: 5/4/2008 11:39pm Whois Name: stripclubguy69 (2)
Delete Subject: any more news
havent gotten to go to the show this weekend , has anyone gone in to see what girls they have working.

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Date: 5/2/2008 8:45am Whois Name: chefboy (40)
Delete Subject: I don't get it either
I have also driven by and noticed no sign of any new direction for "the Show". But, inquiring minds want to know. So, I'll stop in tonight to see what's up and will report back.

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Date: 5/1/2008 5:29pm Whois Name: BMOC (7)
Delete Subject: I don't get it
I did a drive by as I was in the area. The place is now called "The Show at Papa Joe's". There's nothing in the signage or description to lead me to believe it's a bikini lounge. The board out front had a $14.99 NY steak advertised. Googling around got a couple of hits for bands scheduled there and an ad describing it as "relaxed and welcoming setting... family are sure to enjoy".

http://events.pasadenastarnews.com/pasad...

If they are trying to make it a bikini bar, they don't seem to be telling anyone. I also found a craigslist ad for the place (from 4/28 and IN ALL CAPS) saying something about bikinis, but sounding a bit shill-ish for me. Sounds fishy (and not in the good way ;-)

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Date: 4/30/2008 11:27pm Whois Name: ralcav711 (2)
Delete Subject: Are we all talking about the same place?
Are we all talking about the same place?

Frank and Dean's
3768 East Colorado Blvd
Pasadena

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Date: 4/30/2008 3:38am Whois Name: stripclubguy69 (1)
Delete Subject: The show
Hey whats up all, yeah I hear you on some of your reviews, but I just think you caught this place on the wrong night, I went on sunday night and it was pretty good. I mean the vibe is a lot better then taboo or cacoon or as I call it "the cockaroach". To me this place is just changing over to a bikini club so things are coming along. I have seen it happen at clubs before, Hell I remember what it was before this company took it over, it was nothing but old people. I think as they renovate little by little it will be tight. I just like the fact that it is not far from where pleasures used to be. Oh I found out from my aunt who works for LA county, it does not matter how close the house's are a bikni bar does not have to apply by the proximity rule, and yes you can get dances. I am excited to see how this club works out, so far I like the drinks, and the girls, oh and by the way dance with Jada or Star, man top quality if you ask me.

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Date: 4/29/2008 1:00pm Whois Name: MastaPJ (59)
Delete Subject: No Longer Accurate
This place got their license a week or two ago, so there is now a stage and girls working here. I don't know when you went, but this place is now a bikini club, like Pleasures used to be. As far as atmosphere, this place is far superior to Cocoons.

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Date: 4/29/2008 12:25pm Whois Name: PasadenaNewbie (1)
Delete Subject: Waste of Time
New to the area, and a cabbie took me to F and D. Horrible/waste of time/ wanna be strip club. It seemed like this place was just a restaurant???? I asked around and found out there are two real clubs nearby on the same street.... Taboo and Cocoon, Frank and Dean can't hold a candle to either of these clubs. Cocoon is really upscale has a full bar and topless girls, then I can walk next door and get a fully nude dance at Taboo!!!!
Club 0.5 Attitude 1.5 Nasty Factor 3

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Date: 4/26/2008 9:53am Whois Name: ralcav711 (1)
Delete Subject: Frank and Deans ???
Stopped off at F&D last Saturday-don't think I had the right place. It was a regular dance lounge with a live band and average couples dancing.

Stopped at Caccoon- it was dead.

Taboo looked the livliest.

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Date: 4/21/2008 2:34pm Whois Name: jefflu87 Z-VIP Member (24)
Delete Subject: Frank & Dean's
I guess I will have to check out Frank & Dean's the next time I am in the area to see how it is. I'll be sure to post my findings here again.

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Date: 4/19/2008 2:31pm Whois Name: PIITB Z-VIP Member (32)
Delete Subject: Cool Kat
To answer your question, no you can not get lap dances at bikini bars.

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Date: 4/19/2008 2:26pm Whois Name: PIITB Z-VIP Member (32)
Delete Subject: thumbs down
I dont know what stripclubguy69 is talking about. I went to check this place out to see what it was all about and boy was I disapointed. The place isnt very big at all and the stage is small and looks like it was made by home depot. There is no tip rail or pole. There is no DJ booth even.

There are houses RIGHT behind it. I am not talking about a 500 foot rule, we are talking about maybe 15feet away. The only thing seperating them from the houes is a small alley.

I would not call this a bikini bar because it isnt. Go to Westminister if you want to go to a real bikini bar

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Date: 4/17/2008 5:42pm Whois Name: Cool_Kat (New)
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You can get lap dances at bikini bars?

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Date: 4/17/2008 11:10am Whois Name: stripclubguy69 (New)
Delete Subject: FRANK AND DEANS
So I was at Frank & Deans for their opening party, (by the way I guess they are not called frank and deans, they are now "The Show At Pappa Joe's") I was suprised when I walked in, they had hot girls from pleasures & hot girls that I have never seen before! I had a blast and it seemed the rest of the crowd did too. The management was being real cool to the customers and the girls. I'm sure this is the club to replace pleasures. Like you guys I had alot of questions about this place, So I talked to one of the managers there. He said that this club would be a bikini bar, and at no point was it ever going to be topless, and they have no intention of changing it to that. I asked him why and he said so that the adult buisness laws do not apply (500 ft rule and others) I think that is kinda cool. He also told me that more of pleasures best were on the way soon, I was happy to hear that some of my faves are coming like the three german girls (oh man i cant wait), Lei Lei, Mila & Ruby ( a hot combo if you can get them together), and they told me more girls from neigboring clubs were coming too (sounds good to me). Looking around at the place, I gotta belive that they can make it happen cause the girls seem to really like the management, I was getting a few dances from gianna (like the best body ever) and she said she has never been treated this good, and if she says that it must be true cause I have seen her at other clubs and she is a money maker (a lot of it has been mine LOL). I'll be there this weekend to enjoy a great time in a cool spot once again.....

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Date: 4/16/2008 5:18pm Whois Name: PIITB Z-VIP Member (30)
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the 500ft rule still applies. just because its considered LA county but next door to a house doesnt mean they can ignore the rule. la county has its own rules and so does pasadena of which 500ft applies to neighboring cities and counties. i also heard that they have a noise ordinace and have to turn off the music by 12am. they can opperate as a bikini bar but im sure the city will be keeping an eye on them

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Date: 4/13/2008 10:04am Whois Name: ralcav711 (New)
Delete Subject: Looking for "Apple"
Looking for a red head dancer from Pleasures named "Apple".
Anyone know if she is still dancing somewhere ? Thanks.
Will check out Cocoon this weekend.

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Date: 4/2/2008 12:06pm Whois Name: jefflu87 Z-VIP Member (9)
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MastaPJ, thanks for the heads up on Frank & Dean's and Cocoons. I actually dropped by Cocoons last Tuesday to check it out, but it appears that they are closed on both Mondays and Tuesdays.

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Date: 3/31/2008 8:05pm Whois Name: MastaPJ (56)
Delete Subject: Frank and Deans
The 500 feet law is a Pasadena law, but Frank and Dean's is not technically in Pasadena - technically it is in an unincorporated area, so it is technically LA County. I have heard rumors that they may be getting their license in as little as two weeks, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If you are interested in a spot where you can chill with some hot girls and get a few drinks, I would suggest Cocoons. A lot of the old Pleasures dancers/staff are over there and business has started to pick up in the last couple weeks so it has been off the hook. I would highly recommend it...

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Date: 3/27/2008 4:09pm Whois Name: jefflu87 Z-VIP Member (4)
Delete Subject: Frank & Dean's
I went to Frank & Dean's 2 nights ago, and it was still a regular bar, not a gentlemen's club. There was some kind of Latin reggae act playing live.

To be honest, I highly doubt that place could ever be a gentlemen's club. I've read that any gentlemen's club in that city has to be at least 500 feet away from any residences, and there are residences within 100 feet of that building.

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Date: 3/15/2008 4:24pm Whois Name: THRASHER (40)
Delete Subject: in Arcadia
Fozzie_Behr, if you go to Cocoon's in Arcadia, you should fine what you are looking for.

Peace!

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Date: 3/14/2008 4:36pm Whois Name: BMOC (6)
Delete Subject: Bummer
I was a regular at one point and just drove by yesterday and saw it was gone. Too bad, but it hadn't been the same in a long time for me.

The southeast end of Arcadia isn't exactly just next door (10-15 minute drive at least). There's really nothing in the area and Pleasures was nice because it wasn't stuck in some industrial area or an area you were afraid to walk around.

I miss Laura, Olivia, Nana (cocktails/bar), Guinevere and many others from days gone by.

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Date: 3/11/2008 11:03pm Whois Name: fozzie_behr (3)
Delete Subject: Tia?
Anyone know where Tia is dancing now that Pleasures is closed?

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Date: 2/19/2008 9:19am Whois Name: chefboy (28)
Delete Subject: Closed
Closed "until further notice". Will the club be re-opening in Pasadena? Elsewhere?

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Date: 2/10/2008 7:49pm Whois Name: addicted2Life (3)
Delete Subject: Cocoon Gentlemen's club
Hey everyone,

Anyone check out the other place yet? It's Cocoon's gentlemen's club. Apparently it's suppose to be right down the street. Down Myrtle or something.

I went in there and talk to the manager. I believe some of the girls from pleasures are heading down there. Let me know if anyone has more information?

-A

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Date: 1/28/2008 6:54pm Whois Name: THRASHER (26)
Delete Subject: .....moving to Burbank?
Hey Fellas!

I ended up stopping by the club this past Friday night (01/25/08). I got there around 11 pm, it was raging! I guess being there last night of alcohol, people went out with a bang.

I sure did. I ended up partying pretty good with one of the dancers in the VIP area, we had fun. I was drunk!

Anyways, when I got there. The security guard was telling me that they are moving the club to Burbank? That's what he told me. Then when I saw down, one of the owners made a announcement over the mic saying that the club is still sticking around, but I guess it would be without a liquor license. As far as the club going nude? I do not see that happening.

Seems to me, that everyone still does not know what exactly is going to happen. Will see?

It was a fun night on Friday. I was F@#K UP!

Peace!

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Date: 1/28/2008 9:31am Whois Name: chefboy (26)
Delete Subject: Re: Curious
I'm curious too. I hope to stop in sometime this week. If I do, I'll give a report.

I'm also curious about the reported new club down the street. It appears to still be Frank & Dean's - any news on that development?

CB

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Date: 1/26/2008 10:03pm Whois Name: MastaPJ (38)
Delete Subject: Curious...
I am curious to hear from anyone who goes to Pleasures after tonight, because last night (Friday) was supposed to be the last night for them serving alcohol and I am curious to see how the club is going to run without it, including whether or not they are going to try and go nude. If anyone heads over there this weekend or in the next few days, post a trip report and let us know...

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Date: 1/18/2008 12:05am Whois Name: RebelFan42 (7)
Delete Subject: Cocoons
Found this posting on another user board, supposedly posted by the management of the new club:

Hey everyone! It's good to see so many people take interest in the adult industry. I would like to introduce myself. I am the new owner of Cocoons body lounge located at 1580 Clark street in Arcadia. For those of you who are unfamiliar with the area, it will be at the same destination as the previous Spearmint Rhino was in Arcadia. I've had tons of experience with this industry and am hoping to entertain you guys with beautiful women and great alcohol. Please come and visit. Until everything gets situated, we are lowering our prices on adult entertainment and drinks! I promise you won't be unsatisfied!

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Date: 1/17/2008 2:49pm Whois Name: MB (New)
Delete Subject: Frank & Dean's
Its LA County not Pasadena.

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Date: 1/17/2008 10:19am Whois Name: chefboy (25)
Delete Subject: New Club - Frank and Dean's
Was still Frank and Dean's as of about 5PM Wednesday night. I think this location is in the City of Pasadena and would be amazed if the City allowed another Club to open after it's long fight with Pleasures and expensive fight with Peppermint Garden. I wouldn't mind it, of course, I'm just doubtful that it would happen.

CB

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Date: 1/15/2008 9:28pm Whois Name: addicted2Life (New)
Delete Subject: Other Club options?
Hey guys. I used to love pleasures. They did a great job. I was upset when I heard what was going to happen. There is also another club opening up. I'm not sure how great it is. I called them and they said they are planning to open up Friday January 18th. I'll check it out and give you guys feedback if anyone is interested. It used to be a Spearmint Rhino but now they are The Cocoon Gentleman's club. From what I've heard, they've attracted quite a bit of good looking dancers and are lowering their prices for the first month or so. Can't hurt to try it out. Thanks for everything pleasures!!

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Date: 1/15/2008 6:43pm Whois Name: THRASHER (24)
Delete Subject: Regular business this weekend?
Hey Fellas!

Thanks for the info and feedback regarding the club. So, this coming weekend the club will still be as is? Alcohol and Lap Dances?

I plan to stop by on Friday or Saturday night for one last Hooooooooooooooorah!

Peace brothers!!!

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Date: 1/15/2008 2:13pm Whois Name: MastaPJ (37)
Delete Subject: New Club
In addition to what may or may not happen with Pleasures, a new club has already opened a few blocks away where Frank and Dean's used to be on Colorado Blvd. between Rosemead and Michellinda. I hear it's being run by some of the people who used to have a hand in Pleasures back in the day, so it should be pretty good. Gonna check it out in the next few days so should know something more then...

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Date: 1/14/2008 4:57pm Whois Name: chefboy (24)
Delete Subject: Re: Moving/Closing
Haven't heard anything else new, but their ad in the Pasadena Weekly this issue shows a "New Beginnings Party" scheduled for Jan 26 (the day after they must relinquish their liquor license) and still says "Expanding Spring 2008, watch for new locations" at the bottom of the ad.

A nude club would be great. I'll just get a second job.

CB

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Date: 1/13/2008 5:19am Whois Name: horndoggy (13)
Delete Subject: Re: Moving/Closing
that would be a kind of poetic justice. The city doesn't like the alcohol club with the air dances, and in their attempt to shut it down they unwittingly create a full nude lap factory...that would be fucking classic.

I am not gonna hold my breath, but if it happens that way, I might have to move...having a nude club so close to home could put me in serious financial danger. ;)

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Date: 1/11/2008 6:41pm Whois Name: MastaPJ (36)
Delete Subject: Re: Moving/Closing
From what I have heard, they are going to lose their liquor license at the end of the month but are going to try and stay open. There are even rumors they might try to convert to a nude club once the liquor stops flowing, so stay tuned because it could get interesting.

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Date: 1/6/2008 6:06pm Whois Name: THRASHER (21)
Delete Subject: Club moving or closing?
Anyone knows any new info regarding the status of Pleasures? Is it staying open or moving to a new location? What's the word?

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Date: 12/12/2007 10:26am Whois Name: chefboy (23)
Delete Subject: Benntastic
LOL! It's only $6 to find out - go for it!

Oh, and if you don't want to pay to see, think bandaids

CB

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Date: 12/10/2007 9:37pm Whois Name: wheelieman (4)
Delete Subject: Re: Imani
CB,

Imani has been at the club as long as I've been going...so, at least 3 years or so. She's a black lady, really beautiful model looks, slender with a nice, round butt. She's in mostly during weeknights, I think. I HIGHLY recommend her!!!!!!

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Date: 12/10/2007 10:54am Whois Name: benntastic (51)
Delete Subject: Does this place accept the zbone card?
Are there any free ticket coupons for this place? I just want to know what a pasty looks like.

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Date: 12/10/2007 10:51am Whois Name: chefboy (22)
Delete Subject: Imani?
Hi Wheelieman,

I visit the club somewhat regularly, and don't think I remember Imani. Can you tell me what she looks like? Do you know generally when she works?

I want to get into the club a couple more times before the big move.

CB

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Date: 12/9/2007 10:23am Whois Name: wheelieman (3)