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| Date:
7/10/2010 7:42pm
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 Name:
gemwee
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Subject:
Eve
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Miss my Eve at HT, Please come home
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| Date:
6/26/2010 10:09am
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Name:
DO_MAN
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Subject:
rexp
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Friday Evenings.Isn't it obvious why switch?
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| Date:
6/26/2010 2:42am
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Name:
rexp
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Subject:
night time eve
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did she say why she switched to flesh? & what's her schedule?
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| Date:
6/25/2010 5:39pm
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Name:
DUCK1
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Subject:
Eve
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I see night time Eve from Hawaii Theatre has moved over here permanately.
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| Date:
6/25/2010 10:47am
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Name:
NY
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Subject:
re: Afternoon Visit
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stevetaylor,
FYI, since they lost the red light abatement case, Flesh is not legally allowed to have a VIP room. Also, since they serve alcohol, no topless or nude dances either. So, bikini is your only option.
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| Date:
6/25/2010 12:12am
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Name:
stevetaylor
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Subject:
Afternoon Visit
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Stopped by for lunch, it was the first time I went to this club, don't get to San Bernardino much. It was easy to find, good signs and all.
The inside of the club is nice, pretty standard, big place. Lap dances are on a raised area in the back, some privacy if there are no other dancers.
There were about 10 people there but only two dancers. Of course the guy told me more were coming when I called an hour earlier. Lately I've been seeing 10 dancers for 2 PLs.
Anyway, I got a dance with Racheal, a black mixed girl, with smallish tits and a tight body. It was her of the blonde girl with bigger, but I went with chocolate today.
I did a lap for $20. It was a bikini dance, but it wasn't an air dance. I couldn't quite figure out if there are other options, but there isn't a VIP room. Make sure you ask for the two-for-one. The DJ doesn't call it, so the dancer decides if you she wants to grind your sorry dick for two songs or not.
Overall it was a good experience, but I would of preferred a variety of girls. Young-uns have nice bodies, but can't carry a conversation very well.
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| Date:
6/23/2010 8:19am
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
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Subject:
veronica
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at the hawaii
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| Date:
6/22/2010 9:58am
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Name:
BBWLover
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Subject:
M /veronica
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Back! Where? at HT or here? Thanks.
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| Date:
6/22/2010 9:50am
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
(984) |
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Subject:
veronica
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veronica of hawaii fame has made a come back. she is looking very good now. she has put on a few pounds, and the booty is back.
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| Date:
6/11/2010 12:12pm
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Name:
krzeecee
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Subject:
CAR SHOW
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We would like to invite you out to
CRUZ’N DOWN HOSPITALITY LANE CAR SHOW & SHINE.
June 13 2010 (12:00-4:00).
Roll in is at 10:30-12:00.
$5 Donation entry.
Top “BEST Of” and Club Choice.
Location:
Flesh Club Parking lot
100 West Hospitality Lane
San Bernardino, CA 92408-3308
WE will be having KILLER DRINK Specials!!!!! Not to Mention Some Nice Girls.. Special Girls that dont work Sundays but have said they will this SUNDAY..
This is Open to All CARS and Bikes... Come on out
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| Date:
6/8/2010 9:01pm
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
(978) |
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Subject:
re porche
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Thank you!
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| Date:
6/8/2010 6:41pm
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Name:
tl_player
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Subject:
porche
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porche was there two weekends ago on friday or saturday night.
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| Date:
6/8/2010 3:50pm
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
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Subject:
porche
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is porche still at the tropical lei? petite, caucasion, nice cute bum, small natural top, brown hair?
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6/4/2010 2:09pm
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Name:
krzeecee
(114) |
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Subject:
CAR SHOW
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We would like to invite you out to
CRUZ’N DOWN HOSPITALITY LANE CAR SHOW & SHINE.
June 13 2010 (12:00-4:00).
Roll in is at 10:30-12:00.
$5 Donation entry.
Top “BEST Of” and Club Choice.
Location:
Flesh Club Parking lot
100 West Hospitality Lane
San Bernardino, CA 92408-3308
WILL HAVE GOOD DRINK SPECIALS
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| Date:
6/2/2010 4:33pm
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Name:
Brbonz
(246) |
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Subject:
Dolly
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Don't know that much about her. Just pretty face and a big huge juicy rack. Never seen them in the open. I've never seen her on stage. But did notice some thick ankles.
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| Date:
6/1/2010 2:58pm
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Name:
lessthenzero
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Subject:
New dancer DOLLY
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Is this the same tigol bittie brunette from Spearmint Rhino in Rialto? Did she up her game from bed dances to TL VIP's?
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6/1/2010 1:07pm
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Name:
krzeecee
(113) |
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Subject:
CAR SHOW
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We would like to invite you out to
CRUZ’N DOWN HOSPITALITY LANE CAR SHOW & SHINE.
June 13 2010 (12:00-4:00).
Roll in is at 10:30-12:00.
$5 Donation entry.
Top “BEST Of” and Club Choice.
Location:
Flesh Club Parking lot
100 West Hospitality Lane
San Bernardino, CA 92408-3308
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| Date:
5/22/2010 8:09pm
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Name:
Brbonz
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Subject:
TL
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It was dolly. Big titties pretty face. Went on Friday night saw her again she had kinda a big bootie. Never saw her dance.
Waitress was not the blonde or black hair on Friday night but the sandy blonde haired one.
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| Date:
5/18/2010 6:39pm
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Name:
Brbonz
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Subject:
TR-TL Wednesday Night
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Pretty quite. Hung out with a new girl. Black hair beautiful face full lips giant titties. Annoyed by the bitch waitress. Never buy a drink from her.
Thought that Roxy was there. Left after 40 minutes. Not much happening.
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| Date:
5/12/2010 1:34am
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Name:
David_A_Vega
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Subject:
hot waitress
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what nights do that hot waitress Arisela work?
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| Date:
5/9/2010 9:16pm
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Name:
evlrbt
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Subject:
girls gone wild
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Imperial Showgirls Anaheim... HOME OF THE 10 DOLLAR VIP ROOM PRIVATE DANCES....
WEDS MAY 26TH GIRLS GONE WILD WILL BE AT IMPERIAL SHOWGIRLS ANAHEIM LOOKING FOR THE "HOTTEST GIRL IN AMERICA." GIRLS WHO WORK HERE AND GIRLS WHO DON'T CAN WIN... THAT WEDS MAY 26TH... DONT MISS IT!!! IT SHOULD BE OFF THE HOOK!!! INVITE ALL YOUR FRIENDS TO CHEER YOU ON IF YOU WANNA COME TO TRY AND WIN!!! AND COME IN AND WATCH IF YOU DONT WANNA COMPETE!!! SEE YOU THERE!!!
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| Date:
5/4/2010 9:32pm
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Name:
PIITB
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Subject:
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okay i found out the hard way 
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| Date:
5/1/2010 9:37pm
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Name:
PIITB
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Subject:
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which would be a better night to go? tomorrow night (sunday) or monday night?
it will be my first time here since the change and there are the only 2 nights i can go, hoping to see some hot girls..
thanks
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| Date:
5/1/2010 7:35am
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Name:
Brbonz
(234) |
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Subject:
Dana
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Thanks Jimmy the saint, she was there yesterday. She just took some time off. Chatted a bit then VIP'd with her and of course had a great time.
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| Date:
4/28/2010 8:41am
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Name:
Jimmy_the_Saint
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Subject:
Dana
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A week? She might be taking a few days off! Do not worry, I am sure she will be back. Maybe she has changed a few days around or had to switch her days to accommodate other things in her life, boyfriend, girlfriend, child or all 3. Relax.
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| Date:
4/28/2010 7:45am
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Name:
Brbonz
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Subject:
HT Dana
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Does anyone know Dana's schedule or whereabouts.
Was one of my ATF's and always at the club but haven't seen her in over a week? Anyone with info please post.
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| Date:
4/27/2010 7:20am
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Name:
Mod_Hammer
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Subject:
The deletion
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DO_Man is don't man if he's going to do nothing but start flame wars. Zero tolerance for that kind of childish nonsense.
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| Date:
4/27/2010 2:39am
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Name:
Brbonz
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Subject:
TL- Stupid Kevin announcement
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That was hilarious! The "announcement that will shock the world".
I can't imaging it! Well, if it is true, Brooke was kind of Stupid. Who would end up marrying someone who posts by the name Stupid_Kevin and both writes and thinks like a third grader! At times he sounded more ridiculous than my 8 year old son when he is being Stupid.
What happened to, Do Man's post?
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4/26/2010 5:08pm
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Name:
Dr_B
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Subject:
Elektra - intel
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If it is the same one I danced with a few months ago, she is a lot of fun but I thought a little pricey. Maybe you can talk her down a little or get to NMT.
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| Date:
4/25/2010 9:01pm
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
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Subject:
thanks
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i thought maybe they opened the vip room.
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| Date:
4/25/2010 12:15pm
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Name:
Brbonz
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Subject:
VIP's: mo_bta
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Sorry, mo, we've kind of been using this as the TL or HT site. Since Flesh has little going for it and TL and HT are part of the Randy empire.
Chanel is out of TL. I was just posting to see if dreamclubber has any info. She has a very sexy look just wanted to get intel on her dances in the VIP prior to taking the plunge.
I guess we new to post "TL" or "HT" on the subject line to clarify.
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| Date:
4/25/2010 11:42am
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
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Subject:
vip's
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does the flesh have vip dances?
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4/25/2010 2:27am
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Name:
Brbonz
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Subject:
Chanel
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Any word on Chanel?
She was ther on Saturday night. Blonde, natural with sexy eyes.
Skipped a dance with cause had been textd earlier by another dancer.
Anyone have info on her VIP and schedule?
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| Date:
4/24/2010 3:43pm
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Name:
Brbonz
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Subject:
New hottie
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Could be Elektra. No glasses. Black hair. There on Monday night. Small boobs. Any intel on her VIP?
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4/21/2010 12:32pm
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Name:
Brbonz
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Subject:
TL: new little hottie
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Spotted a hot little latina hottie.
All natural, petite. Short black hair. Anyone have any info?
Anyone know Aubrey's schedule?
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4/16/2010 12:55pm
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Name:
Velcro
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Subject:
HTForum
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With no Zbone, a few trolls having destroyed it for everyone, HTForum is one of two places to talk about HT.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HTFORUM/
I'm not the owner anymore, just a moderator, and I don't have access to approving new members. The other forum is Randy's Evil Empire, don't have that address.
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| Date:
4/14/2010 10:57pm
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Name:
Brbonz
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Subject:
Boards
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HT has a good yahoo groups board too.
I agree, the rest of the boards are useless.
May be using this one to post about TL and HT.
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4/13/2010 11:52pm
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Name:
Bradley
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Subject:
Useless
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When I visited TL during its heyday in the 1990's, I never knew this zBone website existed.......and I did just fine WITHOUT IT!
Shut the entire zBone website down......who needs it.......life will go on. Who needs all the other remaining Boards, of clubs that suck and people rarely post in? With the Boards of HT, TL and DVCOI gone, what purpose does this website now serve? (with the exception of maybe 1 or 2 of the remaining Boards)
I think the Moderator needs this website more than the "PL's". I never talked shit on the Boards here, but come on, what do you expect from some of the dicks who visit this site?? Do you really expect everyone who frequents strip clubs to be well-behaved, educated, polite, etc.etc? LOL
If people want to communicate, they can always create Groups on Yahoo.....just like the DVCOI and TL Groups.
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| Date:
4/13/2010 8:52am
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
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Subject:
empire
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The empire is under siege, grab ur  s and and take cover........
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4/13/2010 1:01am
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Name:
BigDawgDaddy
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Subject:
Tropical Lei Board
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It appears that the Tropical Lei has been removed form Zbone, much like DVCOI.
I want to invite you to a board for TL patrons, it has been around for a couple of weeks and has over 100 members already.
If interested, you are invited.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tropicalle...
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4/6/2010 4:29pm
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Name:
krzeecee
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Subject:
Spearmint Rhino dancer
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I hear that some of Spearmint Rhino Dancers (EX) are working here now? does anyone know their names
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| Date:
3/28/2010 8:21am
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Name:
Dez
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Subject:
Monica
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Does anyone know where Monica is? She is a beautiful blonde with a banging body.
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| Date:
3/6/2010 12:52pm
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Name:
drbig
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Subject:
flesh showgirls
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black chics at FLESH ARE HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JANET-a total knock out, long straight hair, her body was a soft she was curvy tits, nice big ass great personality she gave a great dance, check her out
HONEY-personally i dont like my chic that skinny but her ass was amazing, she looked good on stage, didnt get a dance from her though she was jus drunk and got annoying
AMARA- this girl is totally hot, if you dont think black chics are hot come see her, the biggest natuaral tits in the place, her nipples were big and chocolate, great ass, and she can definitely can work it on and off stage, going back to see her she works weekends i spent all of my time and my dough with this chic. she was like beyonce i barely caught her she was too busy, but i can see why. check AMARA out.
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| Date:
1/19/2010 8:13am
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Name:
Dez
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Subject:
Saturday visit
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My second visit to the club, went around 7 pm. Paid my $5 (no free appetizer this time). Place was quiet, not many dancers, 4/5 at the most. Stay 2 hrs and in that time only 1 dancer came and asked for a dance.
I left and then decided to go back around midnight. Cost $10 to get in this time. Still pretty quiet and maybe a few more dancers.
I agree with the poster below with regards to Ricky Bobbie and Kat with my preference being Kat she is pretty fine.
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1/18/2010 12:12am
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Name:
IronWorker82
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Subject:
Hell Yeah
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I've been into flesh a few times since the re opening as a topless bar! And I gotta say I have an awesome time every time.
The bar food in not bad at all! Hot wings, onion rings, popper, tasteful bar food!
The alcohol prices are reasonable! Typical bar pricing with specials and shots. The best part about their drinks is that you dont have to buy dancer drinks. You don't get bugged or pressured or harassed to buy a stripper a drink.
Yes the waitress' are HOT! Arselli is my favorite waitress. She is a sassy petite brunette with a well done boob job from what I can see. Too bad she isn't a dancer.
Stage is centered in the middle of the club, chairs and tables all around, Spacious. Girls can only be topless during their stage performance. Which means BIKINI lap dances. Lap dance couches wrap around the entire back mirrored walls of the club. Not too much out in the open but not too private either. The manager watches off to the side every now and then so NO TOUCHING. Dances are 20 and every couple hours they run a 2 for 1.
There is no VIP room anymore! The once VIP room is now a pool room. About 6 pool tables and a couple TV's and bar stools. Not bad for a night out with the boys. Every once in a while a dancer will shoot a game of pool with us but the pool tables are seperate from the crowd, music, and stage.
Dj's and music are professional fun and entertaining. A variety of music and style!
The best for last.... The strippers review...
90% of these ladies are KNOCK OUTS and EYE CANDY, the other 10%... Well it is San Bernardino. My recent visit was Friday night. I have my list of favorites along with majority of the men.. which is well known as the "A List Girls" I have my nick name labels and reviews for these three!
Brooke/Ricky Bobby (ALL AMERICAN CHEERLEADER, EVERYONES BEST FRIEND): Cali Bleach Blonde HOTTIE! Natural little perky boobs and a FAT ROUND ASS she knows how to shake. Very energetic and hyper. Dances like a cheerleader, fast yet entertaining! Money maker on stage performance, fun to have at the table! Never has a complaint to say or trash talks. Her Dances are fun!
Kaydence(CAN FUCK YOU WITH HER EYES): Blonde BOMBSHELL! Tall, Tan, and TONED! Huge fake tits on a small tight stomach, bubble butt sitting on long legs. Dances very sexual and intense, her porn star look can be intimidating, but smiles and jokes constantly. A bit ditsy in conversations, sexy intimate dances.
Kat(FLIRTATIOUS & BODACIOUS BRING HOME TO MEET MOM STRIPPER): The most pefect set of all natural DD breast EVER PLACED on a woman. Brunette, thicker when standing next to the blondes. Innocent eyes, sweet puckered lips. A Very natural look and dance. Extremely likable flirty personality! Dances sweet and sassy.
These three keep me coming back for more! Also try Honey, Kelly and Rebecca! Great company, conversations and dances as well!
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1/15/2010 11:25pm
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Name:
Dez
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Subject:
Club visit
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Club report January 2010:
Admission is $5 and that will also get you a free appetizer.
Dances are $20 per song (you do get the whole song) and there is no touching and the girls are in bikinis. No nude dancing at all.
At center stage the girl will only take off her top.
Negatives: no full nudity, very few beautifully looking/great body dancers (the waitresses were hotter than most of the dancers).
Positives: cheap admission, drinks and food reasonably priced (3 tacos for $3), food tasted good as well (really!).
Overall this is a great place to go for a happy hour or just to hang out drink, play pool and see some girls.
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1/15/2010 2:28pm
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Name:
louis
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Subject:
Re: Fat_Cock
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It's open now. Zbone really doesn't update his site anymore like he used to. It's usually the posters here that do most of the updated work.
I haven't been back here in several years (too far a drive for me), But I heard it's a topless club only no longer Fully NUDE. This club just had way too many problems with the city and were forced to closed down for a few years.
This club is run by the same owner as Hawaii-Theatre and Tropical Lei so it wouldn't surprised me if many busts were going down here with undercover  and reporting back to the courts to built a case against them. I have no Idea what the prices are now since they reopen as topless. I suspect the reason they went topless was that was the only way the city was going to allow them to reopen again.
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| Date:
1/15/2010 12:56pm
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Name:
Fat_Cock
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Subject:
Open?
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Is this place open or closed? Z bones says that the club is closed, but there's a review on here recently from like October!
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10/16/2009 2:29am
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Name:
RichDick
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I came in on Tuesday & I ran into my fave gal Genessa! I will follow this beautiful lady anywhere! This club was better than I expected! The club had a lot of sexy girls Kelly, Cat & Brooke (those are the ones I remember). If you want to have a great conversation & one hell of a dance just ask for Genessa.
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10/15/2009 2:46pm
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Name:
CCMan
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Subject:
Genessa
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Can you give a description of Genessa and where she used to dance? Peace
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8/11/2009 10:30am
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Name:
FreakALeak
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Subject:
Nice Club
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I've always wanted to check this club out as I pass it a lot. Finally went in Friday night and I was impressed. Good selection of girls most of them lookers. The club looks better on the inside then I thought its nice and clean, not ghetto. There's a full bar and free entry before a certain time but I got there late so I had to pay $5 but you get free appitizer those were some good wings! I got dances from this hot latin girl and this smokin blonde wish I remembered their names. The dances were OK but the girls can't do much while the managers around. 2 songs for $20 thats not bad if you find the right chick. I'll def stop by again next time I pass the club this is a cool place to just kick it.
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8/7/2009 11:36pm
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Name:
blackwind
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Deja vu industry home of the 10$ dances
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7/31/2009 10:22am
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Name:
babops
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Subject:
Ivy
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Any ideas of whatever happened to IVY, latina big booty, black hair, very sexy ATF?
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7/22/2009 8:52pm
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Name:
PIITB
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you're a fat cow
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7/21/2009 12:57pm
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Name:
registername
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Subject:
club has reopened
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Flesh has recently reopened as topless and now has a full bar and kitchen. This club is very nice and way better than the competition around the area (215, Fantasy, Hustler). Some of the old girls still work there but mostly all new girls and seems like fresh faces every time I go in. Great selection.
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6/22/2009 8:32pm
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Name:
babops
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Subject:
dancers
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are there new girls working there now or some of the old ones...who?
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5/4/2009 7:34pm
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Name:
TWANG77
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Subject:
BULLDOG?
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What do you mean? I thought this was an air dance place now. Bust as in raided by the boys in blue or bust as in terrible??? This place used to be off the chain before they closed down!
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5/4/2009 2:07am
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Name:
bulldog
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Subject:
Runs like a nude club
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It's going to be a bust. dancers think it's a nude club.
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| Date:
3/14/2009 3:42am
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Name:
lapdanceaddict
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Subject:
Review of the NEW club
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Got there about 11pm, 4 dancers and about 8 PL's. Topless dances on the stage. There are no VIP dances, Bikini lapdances (10$). there is No touching allowed by both dancer and PL (air dance). One good thing is they serve alcohol.
LDA
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2/27/2009 9:46pm
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Name:
buddha801
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Its still closed!!!
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| Date:
2/26/2009 5:29pm
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Name:
BBAD
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Subject:
New billboard
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I am not sure if there open but i noticed on the way too work they changed the old sign to a new one on the I10 in the bloomington area.
Seems crazy to put up a new sign if there still closed
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| Date:
2/17/2009 2:35pm
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Name:
cuevas22
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Subject:
Madison
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Before Flesh was shut down it was a hot spot. It didn't even matter it was alcohol free because so many dancers were EN FUEGO. Anyone know if Madison is dancing at another club? She was a Latina with killer curves. UHM in VIP room. Never disappointed. Any feedback is appreciated.
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| Date:
1/20/2009 5:49am
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Name:
grinder1925
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Subject:
yesse or brandi?
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does anyone know were Yesse or Brandi went to? what club are they at now
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| Date:
12/22/2008 11:16am
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Name:
babops
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Subject:
where's IVY and Monroe
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desperately seeking these two ATF of mine. Where are they now? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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| Date:
12/22/2008 10:10am
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
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Subject:
Monroe
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She is at the HT in Industry. You will have to call the club for her schedule.
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| Date:
12/22/2008 8:30am
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Name:
babops
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Subject:
Ivy and Monroe
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Does anyone know where these lovely ladies are dancing now that flesh is closed?
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| Date:
11/11/2008 4:05pm
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
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Subject:
setback
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I read that the club has lost a bid to get a liquor license, and that the courts have overturned a judgement that was awarded to the club. Things do not look good for the ol Flesh.
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| Date:
8/26/2008 11:53pm
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Name:
tunaman
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Subject:
where'd she go
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Anybody know where I can find Lexi? She used to dance at Flesh, petite, thin, kind of rhaspy voice and so sweet to talk to. I've lost her ever since Flesh closed and have been trying to find at HT and TL. Anybody know?
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| Date:
7/31/2008 8:03pm
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Name:
Jack_Mehoffe
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Subject:
Looking for:
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Anyone know if any of my Flesh ATF's are dancing elsewhere?
Jessica - strawberry blonde with nice natural curves, hispanic maybe mixed with caucasian
Jennifer - pretty mexican girl from Lake Elsinore with long dark black hair, originally went by Mia, but changed name to Jennifer when another Mia started dancing here
Monroe - short and nicely thick latina possibly mixed with italian? last reported at Hawaii Theater
Ivy - very pretty thick girl possibly latina mixed with white, long beautiful brown hair
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| Date:
7/16/2008 5:18pm
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Name:
man_from_laramie
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Subject:
info about Flesh
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Today's paper carries the story about Flesh. There won't be any Flesh re-opening anytime soon. The city won't allow it and the owner is trying another law suit. Good luck, Flesh. I will miss you. I spent a lot of money in the VIP Rooms.
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| Date:
7/15/2008 8:48pm
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Name:
man_from_laramie
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Subject:
reply to flesh
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I know the history. I read the paper. I know what happened in April. I want to know what is happening now. Is the club going to open again? If not, why is this site still open? Thank you. If your name is Flesh, are you the club owner? If so, good luck to you. What the city did was unfair.
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| Date:
7/11/2008 4:15pm
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Name:
Flesh
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Subject:
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Cabaret granted a new trial
By David Kelly
April 25, 2008
The state Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a new trial be held to determine if the city of San Bernardino intentionally misled a judge during its battle to close down a notorious strip club that officials said was actually a brothel.
The Flesh Club closed in 1995 for nearly five years, after a judge issued an injunction banning nude dancing in the establishment. The judge used information from the city that later turned out to be wrong.
The ruling put on hold the nude cabarets demand for $1.4 million in lost revenue.
In 1995, a city planner testified in court that there were 220 acres zoned for adult businesses in San Bernardino and said the Flesh Club could easily move from its location on Hospitality Lane, the citys premier business district. It later turned out that there were only 80 acres with the appropriate zoning. The Flesh Club reopened in 1999 after the injunction was ruled unconstitutional, but was shut down again last November.
Both sides claimed victory in Thursdays decision.
Attorney Roger Jon Diamond, who has represented the Flesh Club since 1994, said proving that the city intentionally misled the judge would be a slam dunk.
I think its a mere formality to go back to trial court and establish that misstatements were made. We all know they were, he said. We have the affidavits. We dont want people to think they can carelessly, negligently mislead a judge without any consequences.
San Bernardino City Atty. James Penman said Sandra Paulson, a former city planner who has since died, made the miscalculations.
We will introduce her testimony, he said. Its clear it was not intentional and that the lady acted in good faith. I think Mr. Diamond will be hard-pressed to prove it was intentional.
Even if there was 80 acres rather than 220 for adult businesses, Penman said, that was more than enough space to accommodate the Flesh Club and probably dozens of other establishments of its kind.
Two acres would have been enough, he said. It was never about the nude dancing for us. It was about the prostitution.
He said that whatever the outcome of the new trial, the loser is likely to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
In November, after more than 14 years of city litigation against the Flesh Club, a judge issued a temporary restraining order shutting the place down for eight months.
He said there was ample evidence of widespread prostitution.
The club plans to reopen in July, Diamond said.
City officials are confident there wont be prostitution because the judges order forbids physical contact.
The minute a dancer tries to give a lap dance, they can be arrested immediately, said Penman.
david.kelly@latimes.com
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| Date:
7/10/2008 8:15pm
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Name:
man_from_laramie
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Subject:
where is Flesh?
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What is the story with Flesh? Is it open again? Does anybody know? If it went out of business, why is this site still open?
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| Date:
6/20/2008 7:51pm
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Name:
U_my_nufuckbitch
(65) |
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Subject:
Someone lost some flesh ?
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Thank you for your testimonial Mimi09. I'd say it takes balls to share your experience considering your penis fell off.
However...maybe you created a love child or two and that's why you are concerned of their whereabouts. Look on the bright side - if the kid every calls you a dickhead you can prove him wrong and blame it on their Mother for the condition she's left you in.
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| Date:
5/26/2008 12:54pm
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Name:
Velcro
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Subject:
Same Ora
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Hey Vestor, did this Ora speak English? If it's the same Ora, then you had to communicate with sign language almost, because she only spoke Thai.
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| Date:
5/16/2008 10:17am
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Name:
Vestor
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Subject:
Spearment Rhino, Las Vegas
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I run into Ora (the Asian girl with booty) in Las Vegas at Spearmint Rhino.
She said she has been working there for a while, mainly weekdays during the day. This place is pretty cool, with plenty of girl to choose from but like to stay with my regular-- if you kno what I mean.
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| Date:
12/28/2007 10:12pm
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Name:
onebookmark
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Subject:
Yesse or Justine
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Anybody know what happened to Yesse & Justine?
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| Date:
12/7/2007 3:42am
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Name:
Velcro
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Subject:
Vestor
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Vestor, email me at velcrolio (at) gmail (dot) com for some info on Ora and Paradise. I've been seeing them at Body Shop myself.
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| Date:
12/7/2007 12:40am
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Name:
jetfortis
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Subject:
beerman
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The only way you can get any is to pay? How SAD and PATHETIC is that? LAME LAME LAME. Normal people go to strip clubs for a little bit of fun and fantasy. You are such a SICK RETARDED FUCK that whats fine for normal people is not good enough for you. So you go seek out CHEAP ASS INTERNET HOOKERS and you actually seem proud of that. What an idiot.
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| Date:
12/7/2007 12:20am
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Name:
BeerMan
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Subject:
Only Jetfortis would agree the private investigator got a great deal.
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Jetfortis has clearly demonstrated his stupidy by showing he has no clue what can go on in a vip room. At HT we don't know if he is a retard by choice or was born that way. He certainly is making a case as being a MORON for not understanding that it doesn't matter if a stripper or ho provides the VHM or UHM, it's the same result but at a higher price in a strip club.
In his post he said: "If I were a stripper I would ROB you LAMEASS retards too."
The zbone jury might question if by that he means he'd be willing to provide VHM and UHM for the right price. That is darn good evidence that he is willing to be a Tranny FAGOT and therefore what a MORON. The jury might wonder if he put his foot in his own mouth but his lawyer would offer an alibi -impossible! he already have some PL's cock there he's going to ROB.
Date: 12/6/2007 9:24pm Name: jetfortis (29)
Subject: RETARDS
You FUCKERS are a bunch of RETARDED IDIOTS. This is a forum for STRIP CLUBS and STRIPPERS. Its NOT a forum for HOOKERS you losers. At least strippers have SKILLS and can dance and HUSTLE and flirt and chat. The stupidass PROSTITUTES in your links just lay there like robot rag doll cum buckets because they are DEAD INSIDE. Do you enjoy that you SICK FUCKS? You enjoy handing your money over to PIMPS? because thats what you are doing. No wonder this club has so many ROBS you people are the WORST CUSTOMERS in the world with NO SOCIAL SKILLS. If I were a stripper I would ROB you LAMEASS retards too. Just remember you motherfucking retarded assholes when you go to ZBONE.COM it says ZBONE'S STRIP CLUB CONNECTION not ZBONE'S HOOKER CONNECTION.
Jetfortis - get a clue, read !
Strip club goes the way of all flesh
November 16, 2007
By David Kelly
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
San Bernardino's most notorious strip club was ordered shut down by police late Wednesday, giving the city at least a brief victory in its years-long effort to close up the Flesh Club.
Vice officers who entered the club were enforcing an injunction from a local judge who ruled last month that dancers were selling sexual services at the club with the approval of management. The order closed the business at the stroke of midnight for eight months.
City Atty. James Penman said Thursday that if the Flesh Club reopens it will not be allowed to offer lap dancing or any contact between patrons and dancers. All dancing will have to be on an elevated stage. The club's VIP rooms, where most of the alleged prostitution occurred, will no longer have curtains.
"Their two main moneymakers were lap dancing and prostitution," he said. "Given the parameters of the court order, they will no longer be able to engage in that. And if it does reopen it will be heavily policed."
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.... "And on one occasion, a private investigator working for the city spent $800 for a lap dance and sex with a stripper."
HAHAHA
Only Jetfortis would agrue that private investigator got a great deal.
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| Date:
12/3/2007 12:04pm
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Name:
Vestor
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Subject:
Body Shop
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I saw Ora and Paradise (Asian Chicks)way in Hollywood at the Body Shop. This place is pretty cool, they open until 5AM on Fri and Sat,and the rest till 4AM. But they open at 8PM every night.I guess I've found my new hang out.
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| Date:
11/28/2007 8:19pm
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Name:
Old_Guy
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Subject:
Flesh dancers at other clubs
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Mariah and Monique (also of Tropical Lei) are at Hawaii Theater in City of Industry
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| Date:
11/23/2007 11:15pm
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Name:
Small-spender
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Subject:
Any Sightings of Flesh Girls in Other Clubs?
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Anyone seen any flesh dancers at other clubs now that Flesh is closed?
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| Date:
11/18/2007 10:00pm
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Name:
MakesThemNaughty
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Subject:
Attn. Dancers
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Lots of great personal memories from FLESH for me.
Sorry to read the news about the shutdown.
If you have natural boobs, are latin, under 30 and
slender PLEASE tell me where the next stop in your
dancing career is?
List your dancer name and anticipated next club in
a Club Review post or to me personally at: jw121465@yahoo.com
(Odds are I'll spend a crapload on you in the upcoming months if your personality is good and mileage is great).
MTN
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| Date:
11/17/2007 11:54pm
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Name:
ZBoneFan
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Subject:
Mariah
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Where is the sexy Mariah?
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| Date:
11/17/2007 7:43am
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Name:
BBAD
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Subject:
Dude no one works there now
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Date: 11/16/2007 10:32pm Name: mojoman (1)
Subject: Isabelle
Does Isabelle still work here ---if so whats her schedule
They BEE CLOSED FOR THE WINTER
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| Date:
11/16/2007 10:32pm
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Name:
mojoman
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Subject:
Isabelle
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Does Isabelle still work here ---if so whats her schedule?
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| Date:
11/11/2007 4:00pm
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Name:
Jack_Mehoffe
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Subject:
VIP Favorites
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Anyone have any updates on some VIP favorites? Do Jessica and Ivy still dance here or anywhere else?
JM
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| Date:
10/13/2007 10:07am
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Name:
lakerjapan
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Subject:
torrie, dakota, gina
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does anyone know if these girls are still working at flesh. i am going to be in town and was hoping to have fun with one or all of these girls. i met dakota in june and all i can say is wow! gina is a gorgeous girl wiug brown hair big boobs and a killer body. i went in on a thursday night and i got a couch dance with her and it was great. i wanted to do a vip with her but didnt and i havent seen her since
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| Date:
9/26/2007 5:09pm
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Name:
tunaman
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Subject:
velcro reply
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the curtins are still there and it's still mighty dark. i suspect all of the lawyering will take another several months if not years.
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| Date:
9/25/2007 1:40pm
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Name:
Velcro
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Subject:
One time
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I visited once two years ago, rated it so-so, probably never going back. It's cleaner, bigger, fresher and better-lit than Welty's other properties, but it's still, you know, San Bernardino, not on my list of preferred vacation locales.
To move away from the ideological dead-end (which I started, my bad!), the next question is, did the SB city attorney succeed in getting the VIP curtains taken out and the lights brought up?
Even more intriguingly, what kind of idiot cop pays $800 for FS in the VIP, knowing that (1) it's sure to get him suspended, and (2) he's overpaying by more than double? Sucker and sucker. But of course this didn't stop the city from using his story as rationale for their now-delayed order to shut down Flesh. (The story about the cop is taken from the original article on the case, easily google-able.)
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| Date:
9/22/2007 11:24am
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Name:
bonzai
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Subject:
hung up
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on gay government officials are we?
My dig at you was if you're going to San Berdo looking for sex you might have a few screws loose. Flesh has been the dumping ground for ROBs, overaged, and drugged out dancers from TL for years.
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| Date:
9/22/2007 2:12am
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Name:
Velcro
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Subject:
Newbie, gotcha
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Ah, I see. You're one of those forum nutbags who thinks that post-count matters. But you know, you're right. The right-wingers in the sticks are too busy soliciting gay sex in airport bathrooms (US Sen. Larry Craig), public parks (McCain FL co-state campaign chairman Sen. Bob Allen), cruising for underage boys on chat (US Sen. Mark Foley), or calling prostitutes from the floor of the US House of Reps (now US Sen. David Vitter) to care about something like this. Must be the Free Soil party I'm thinking of. :D
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| Date:
9/19/2007 11:58pm
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Name:
bonzai
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Subject:
sure blame the right wingers
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for a newbie what do u know of sex in the sticks?
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| Date:
9/14/2007 5:45pm
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Name:
Velcro
(1) |
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Subject:
Still open
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Flesh will stay open pending appeal. Then if it closes, look for the owner to win yet again, though it may take awhile, and get paid off in the millions for his trouble. Was it really closed for 3-4 years in the 90s? If so, same deal. Really I can't believe the kind of self-righteous campaigns waged in these right-wing hovels out in the sticks.
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| Date:
9/8/2007 2:48pm
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Name:
mo_bta_luv
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Subject:
prices
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Unless things have changed recently the dance prices are as follows:
topless-$20
nude-$40
vip-three song private nude for $120.
Go and enjoy!
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| Date:
9/8/2007 1:28am
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Name:
awesumbomb
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Subject:
some 411
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I may head out there tomorrow night with some friends. Never been to Flesh. What are the costs for dances & V
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